Hello Anne and Marcelo, I can get that page to read with VoiceOver using Safari Reader. Try pressing Command-Shift-R. The text for the article will come up separately and be read by VoiceOver. However, this will only work to display the main blog article -- it won't show up the comments.
The best solution I found for reading the Web page was to set up a Services Menu Shortcut using "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection", do a Command-A (select all) on the web page, then apply the shortcut to send the contents to TextEdit, where it will automatically start reading normally with VoiceOver. You need to do two things to set this up: (1) Add the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option by checking it under the "Services" options in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of your Keyboard menu under "System Preferences" and (2) Assign this service option to an application keyboard shortcut. The second step is not strictly necessary, but will save you a few navigation steps if you use this a lot. The difference is that instead of pressing Command-A to select all on the web page, and then navigating to the entry for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" that now shows up in the Services sub-menu of the Safari menu on the menu bar, you simply press your assigned shortcut key combination after doing the "Select All". You might need to restart Finder or log in again to have the shortcut take effect immediately after setting up the shortcut definition, because I believe that the Services menu shortcut will apply to selections in all applications (not just Safari), and that might require a restart to take effect. Here are the steps: 1. Open "System Preferences" (Control+F2 to the Apple menu on the menu bar, Arrow down, type "s y" and press return) 2. In "System Preferences" navigate to the "Keyboard Menu" and VO+Space to open it 3. On the "Keyboard Menu" navigate to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab select it (VO+Space) 4. On the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab navigate to the "Shortcuts Categories" table and interact (VO-Shift Down arrow). VO+right arrow to the second column (category names), then VO+Down arrow to select "Services". Stop interacting with the "Shortcuts Categories" tabel. 5. VO+Right arrow to the "Table of services" and interact, VO+Right arrow to the second column (services names). 6. Use item chooser menu (VO+I), and type "t e x t e" then VO+Down arrow to "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection". VO+Space to select. Make sure that this service selection is checked (VO+Left arrow to the first column, if needed) 7. Stop interacting with the table (VO+Shift Up Arrow) At this point, you could close the System Preferences menu (Command+W), and "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" will appear as an option in the Services menu, which you access from your application (Preview, Safari, etc.) after selecting text by using Control+F2 to move to the menu bar, VO+Right arrow to the Application name, then arrow down to menu and press "s e" to go to services, VO+Right arrow to the submenu and VO+Down arrow. There's now an entry for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" If you want to assign this service option an application keyboard shortcut, instead of closing the window, take the following steps: 8. VO+Right arrow to "Add an Application Shortcut" button and VO+Space 9. In the dialog window VO+right arrow past application to the pop up menu button, VO+space, and choose "All Applications" 10. VO+Right arrow past Menu title to the text field and type or paste in (exactly): New TextEdit Window Containing Selection 11. VO+RightRight Arrow to the Keyboard shortcut and press the shortcut key combination you want to use e.g. Command+Shift+Option+W) 12. VO+Right arrow to the Add button and VO+Space 13. Command+Q to quit system preferences To send all the text from the web page, select all with Command+A, then use Command-Shift-Option-W to send your selection to a TextEdit window. You can select parts of text, and you can choose other shortcut combinations for your shortcut. Just make sure this doesn't conflict with some other shortcut your might use. The Service Menu option for sending to TextEdit is faster and uses fewer system resources than doing a copy and paste. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 23, 2011, at 05:02, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Marcelo, > > I've had a look at the site and it really is awful! > > The only way I could get VO to read any real content was by using the Item > Chooser and just letting VO read in that. Selecting an item from the Item > Chooser didn't let me read. > > I only succeeded in finding text on a page by reading the screen with my > Optacon, picking out a word and looking for that word in the Item Chooser. > Not good at all. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On 23 Mar 2011, at 14:23, marcelo wrote: > >> Macvisionaries Dear Friends! >> >> I'm helping users use Voiceover friends in Spain and I have a >> difficult problem. >> >> If the user wants to access the content of the blog of a writer well >> known: >> >> http://antoniomuñozmolina.es/2011/03/plan-de-lectura/ >> >> Safari browser, Voiceover behaves inappropriately, it seems more like >> Firefox instead of Safari! >> >> You think of something? ... >> >> Greetings >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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