Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc.  Do you have 3G 
mobile network?  
On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote:

> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available 
> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
> 
> 
> Wrong, I am British :)  I am sure South Africa will catch up in time.  After 
> all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about 
> were cassette.
> 
> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently 
> testing 200mb.  It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the 
> fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+
> 
> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa?  UK have 
> lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 .
> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote:
> 
>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high 
>> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I 
>> live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 
>> or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen.
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>> 
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>> to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by 
>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>> 
>> 
>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo 
>> systems for home  audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your 
>> ioS device into them?  The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the 
>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the 
>> wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too.  CD 
>> car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much 
>> more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too.
>> 
>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century.
>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non 
>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in 
>>> the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the 
>>> house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 
>>> front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, 
>>> and so on and so on. I can keep going for days.
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>> 
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop 
>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made 
>>> smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing.  Accept it, the 
>>> spinning disc is dead.
>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses 
>>>> 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find 
>>>> out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid 
>>>> packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same 
>>>> for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week.  Try again.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>> 
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>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by 
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>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used 
>>>> for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much 
>>>> smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported 
>>>> at a time, saving on delivery costs too.  So maybe it would be not as 
>>>> expensive as you think.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's 
>>>>> cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the same 
>>>>> OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune 
>>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC 
>>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contact me:
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>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Brandt,
>>>>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n 
>>>>>> occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use 
>>>>>> a thumbdrive for this.
>>>>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. 
>>>>>> So I am already using jthis format..  I don't spend a lot of time 
>>>>>> debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the 
>>>>>> simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a 
>>>>>> single file on a cd to transfer it.
>>>>>> Isaac
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, 
>>>>>>> at least. They are still more expensive than disks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In 
>>>>>>> fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS.
>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do 
>>>>>>>> if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install 
>>>>>>>> off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If 
>>>>>>>> your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
>>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
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>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of 
>>>>>>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure 
>>>>>>>> and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was 
>>>>>>>> not a benefit to them and their customers.
>>>>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, 
>>>>>>>> any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The 
>>>>>>>> issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for 
>>>>>>>> these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk.  There will always 
>>>>>>>>> be security risks.  This doesn't stop most of us from using credit 
>>>>>>>>> cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales.  So, 
>>>>>>>>> the writing is already on the wall.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have 
>>>>>>>>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. 
>>>>>>>>>> You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. 
>>>>>>>>>> Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and 
>>>>>>>>>> get rid of their optical drives.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just 
>>>>>>>>>> yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it 
>>>>>>>>>> on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been 
>>>>>>>>>> down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about 
>>>>>>>>>> identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone 
>>>>>>>>>> hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 
>>>>>>>>>> years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be 
>>>>>>>>>> surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store.
>>>>>>>>>> Shawn
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