Sorry, had a lot of messages and didn't see this before I replied.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of carolyn Haas
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mod note: was digital distribution

Hi Guys:
I think we've sort of lost track of our purpose here in favor of a chat
about costs.  This really doesn't have anything to do with accessibility or
voiceover.  But, rather to speculation.

Please close the thread down now.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.  
Carolyn
On May 17, 2011, at 6:27 AM, brandt wrote:

> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses
200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find
out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid
packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same
for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week.  Try again.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
> 
> Contact me:
> 
> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" 
> <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
> 
> 
> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used
for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much
smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported
at a time, saving on delivery costs too.  So maybe it would be not as
expensive as you think.
> 
> 
> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:
> 
>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's
cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the same OS
on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you.
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>> 
>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>> 
>> Contact me:
>> 
>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>> MSN: [email protected]
>> Google talk/AIM: [email protected] Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Brandt,
>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n
occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a
thumbdrive for this.
>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook.
So I am already using jthis format..  I don't spend a lot of time debating
which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method
at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to
transfer it.
>>> Isaac
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now,
at least. They are still more expensive than disks.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>> 
>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 
>>>> 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>> 
>>>> Contact me:
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>> MSN: [email protected]
>>>> Google talk/AIM: [email protected] Twitter 
>>>> @brandtsteenkamp
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In
fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS.
>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do
if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off
of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only
computer whent crash, you're truely screwed!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you 
>>>>> can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday 
>>>>> afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>> MSN: [email protected]
>>>>> Google talk/AIM: [email protected] Twitter 
>>>>> @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of
commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and
efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a
benefit to them and their customers.
>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said,
any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is
really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues.
THis does apply to companies as well as individuals.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk.  There will always
be security risks.  This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards?
And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales.  So, the writing is
already on the wall.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have
iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want
an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be
surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their
optical drives.
>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just
yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the
radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past
month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because
the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if
you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take
effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App
Store.
>>>>>>> Shawn
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