Kim, especially on the internet with Safari quicknav I found to be a blessing...
launch Safari, enable quicknav, left / right keys together, if it says quicknav off, do it again so it says its on. now simply go to your favourite web-site, something you know the layout of well. press command l to bring up the URL box and type in the url and press enter. the page will load and if you've not changed the defaults of voice Over it will auto move your focus to the new page. now simply using single key presses, press the right arrow key and you'll be amazed to hear your site now being read to you nice and simply and understandably. if you wish to get cleaver and jump about a bit, move through the rotor by pressing up and right / up and left together at the same time, until you hear the type of jump you wish to make, say headers etc. now simply individually single press the up or down keys, you're now jumping through the site. want to read that headings content, no problem, just start using the right arrow. want to read word by word, fine, change the rotor to word, and then use the down arrow. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 Jun 2011, at 18:50, Kimberly wrote: This is truly an incredibly helpful post. I've had my Mac for several months but haven't made the switch from Jaws and the pc because I find the command structure and especially web navigation totally not intuitive. But these two suggestions have made me want to give it another try. Kim -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: transition from pc to mac This was a marvelously helpful message. I read nothing about either of these features in the voiceover quickstart, and no one has suggested them. Thank you so, so much for making me aware of them. I think this will make the Mac and I better friends in a much more timely manner. (Smile) Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Joanne, > > for me the podcasts etc do help, but by far the biggest thing that very few people seem to throw up as the most obviously easy way into Mac usage is to use QuickNav. > > let me explain, there are a number of ways to use a Mac, unlike with a PC, where you can really only use the qwerty keyboard. > > A Mac has different commanders as they are referred to, these are ways of inputting commands or actions to Voice Over to make a desired thing happen, be it navigation or more. > > you can use your keyboard, with the Voice Over keys, control and options, with a range of additional keys to activate various commands. You can use the number pad if your keyboard has one to also do the same, if you have a track pad you can use that to gesture like you can on an iPHone, iPod Touch or iPad. > > but the big one for me that is often overlooked is Quick Nav, quick nav uses the four arrow keys to enable you to quickly navigate around everything from finder Windows, to apps, to text edit areas to the internet etc. > > firstly you need to know that in certain cases you have to turn quick nav off and indeed back on again. you enable / disable quick nav using the left and right arrow keys pressed once at the same time. quite literally left and right arrow keys press once together. > > you'll hear Voice Over say, Quick Nav on or off. > > once its on, you can use individual presses of the right / left arrow to move the Voice Over cursor from item to item on the screen... > > inserted little note here, you need to also understand that whilst PC's screen readers use up and down arrows to move you about, the Mac uses left / right, and thinking about this, it does make sense, as this is how sighted folk read. > > so the left / right keys will move item by item, be it a chunk of text on the internet, or icons on a desktop etc. > > the up / down arrow keys again individually pressed will cycle through the elements of the item that you are interacting with based on the rotor setting, the rotor is a dial or rotory styled switch which adjusts the method of moving through elements in a given thing. > > let me explain, a web-site is made up of headings, links, visited links, fields, form fields, tables etc. so when you're in Safari the rotor may have, and you can customise this, headings, tables, links, words and characters within the rotor. if you want to quickly move between the headings on a web page you should make sure that the rotor is set to headings, you cchange the roter setting by pressing together the up and left arrow keys, or the up and right arrow keys. > > once you're on heading, use the up / down arrow key indivually to jump between headings since this is what your roter is now set to. > > say you find the heading you are looking for, you can now right arrow through the content, imagine though you find a word that Voice Over doesn't quite read right, and you think, what did it say? change the roter to word, using the up and right or up and left arrows together, now down press until yu are one word ahead of the word you wish to have spelt, now change the roter to charicter, press down arrow and the cursor will move charicter by charicter. > > once done simply change the roter bakc to heading or whatever you wish. > > this is just one example of how the roter works. > > another amazing thing which gets little press is the Item Chooser, which by pressing control, options, I, will bring up a list of every single item on any page you are on, be it a finder window or safari window etc. > > this has to be one of my favourite features of Voice Over. > > with this snazy feature you now have a list of every componant on the screen, say you are on Amazon, and you've got an item up in front of you, you want to find the add to basket button, but can't. > > press control, options, I, and then type basket, or b, a, s and leave it at that... the list of items reduces based on the available options with your letter combination. this is fantastic for finding things you are having trouble with, or where for example you don't quite know if the item is, add to basket, put in basket, add to cart, etc.... as you can try a few words until you find what you want. you don't need to do it in any given order, so even if the link reads add this dam item to my cart, you could type dam, and the list will reduce to any option with dam in it. > > Quick Nav and the Item Chooser have to be my two main features of Voice Over and this is how I have successfully last October made the switch to Mac from being a JAWS PC user for 12 years before that. > > hope that this has helped. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > On 8 Jun 2011, at 13:58, Joanne Chua wrote: > > hi there, > > i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to > Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me > too long, and i'm not really sure where to start. > it sounds stupid i know but, may i ask, is there any tips or ways for > me to fast track my learning curves with using voice over? > > any suggestion is deeply appreciated. > > many thanks > > Joanne :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
