This is absolutely awesome!  Thank you very much for the info!

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On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, here's what you do.
> 
> Firwstly and foremost, bring up Safari.
> 
> Now, there's a little gotcha to this.  Let me see if I can explain this.
> 
> The problem you're gonna have is Under the voiceover utility, there is a 
> category called commanders.  Now, you have a fourth tab under there called 
> quick nav.  The problem is If you simply go under here and check the box to 
> enable quick nav, what this does is, it sets things so that quick nav is by 
> default enabled.  This would mean it would be as if you had hit the 
> left/right arrows together and turned it on.  Now that it's enabled you can 
> also vo+down in this screen and tell it to use single letter navigation. Now 
> this all looks great doesn't it.  Well, there's a little catch to this though 
> that most people don't think about.
> 
> Maybe I'm just too thorough, but I caught this issue pretty well, right away.
> 
> Here's the thing.  If you enable quick nav through here.  You're doing it 
> globally.
> 
> In other words, If you enable quick nav through here, that's gonna turn it on 
> regardless! where in lion you are.  this can be incredibly! annoying! There 
> surely are some apps you don't want/need quick nav enabled.  Well, so fine, 
> turn it off in those apps.  Yeah, you say that... then try going back to 
> Safari, and watch.  There goes your quick nav in there, too.  Now your letter 
> nav doesn't work anymore.
> 
> So, what's the sollution?  Simple!
> 
> What I've! done, personally, is I've opened up Safari, then made an Activity 
> and attached it to Safari individually.  Then when setting it up, I chose to 
> keep other settings.  It's a check box in there.  Once I checked that box 
> under the activity category, I hit vo+right arrow, and went over to quick nav 
> and checked the box.  Then I hit vo+space on the set quick nav button. Now in 
> here, I told it to use Quick nav, and letter navigation.  Then I attached the 
> activity to safari.app.  So, now, what happens is, if I am not in Safari, 
> quick nav isn't on.  the minute I either launch it, or command tab, or 
> whatever into it, magically, Quick nav now is enabled and my single letters 
> work.
> 
> One more thing to know.
> 
> If you have quick nav on in Safari, then as soon as you reach a text box, say 
> like the google search box, or say, a place to enter on a form your name, 
> etc.  If you have quick nav on but single letter off, this problem won't 
> exist, same goes if quick nav's off totally.  but if quick nav, *and!* single 
> letter are on, as most people would probably want it to be, then, what you're 
> gonna have to do is, you're gonna have to, once vo is focused on the text 
> box, then, vo+shift+down arrow, and interact with the text box.  I know, 
> normally, you don't interact with text boxes, but trust me with this. If you 
> don't do that first, then voiceover is going to intercept everything you type 
> as a quick nav command.  When done typing, stop interacting with vo+shift+up 
> arrow, then you're on your merry way, and can continue navigating as normal.
> 
> The final thing is, when  quick nav and single letter both are on, if you 
> vo+space, or up+down arrow, either/or, on a popup menu in a web site, be 
> aware that first letter navigation won't work.  For this, I suggest once the 
> box is opened and dropped down, hit left+right arrows to turn off quick nav. 
> Hit your first letter navigation or whatever, pick your option with vo+space, 
> then turn quick nav back on with left+right arrows.  Again, that's only if 
> you obviously want! to use first letter nav in a popup that may be really big.
> 
> Otherwise, don't worry about it.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chad baker" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:20 PM
> Subject: single letter navigation
> 
> 
>> hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it
>> thanks
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