I am glad that you found what you needed on the iPad. Meantime, I decided I would jump into mail and just see what everybody was complaining about. Well, the first thing I did was to make a few changes that I personally prefer and I have to say that thus far, after reading about 25 messages I think I am happier with mail now than I was before when I quit using the email on the Mac back around February. I may actually consider changing and reading my email on the Mac.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:56 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi David: > Very well said. It's so easy to gripe and start blaming someone when what we > did before doesn't work the same anymore. > I like the way you've pointed this out. It sounds much better than I could > have done. > > Take care > Oh, and BTW: found that iPad setting. Thanks again. > > Carolyn > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:13 PM, David Tanner wrote: > >> How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is >> new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned >> the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of those >> who are complaining of problems who are new or relatively new to Apple in >> the first place, and now they are trying to deal with a new operating system >> which was announced to have way over 200 changes and new features. >> >> People need to realize that it is going to take more than 24 hours to learn >> a new operating system that has over 250 changes and new features. And, how >> many of these folks have sat down with the list of new features and even >> read through them to learn how to use those new features? >> >> Let's see where things are a month from now. I bet by then there are going >> to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues >> >> >>> I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, >>> they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I >>> totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason >>> I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this. I >>> mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all these >>> bugs. come on, lookit! We have some beta testers on here, do we not? Admit >>> it, did you all see any of these bugs? If not, then wow. I apologize. >>> Really I do. I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm ashamed of >>> myself, but, really, think about this for justa minute. OK, you all can >>> shoot me, I know you may want me to shut up, as does a few people who we >>> won't mention, but, if they and all you others will please I beg you, just! >>> for once, hear me out for a second. >>> >>> If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up. >>> >>> Just let me have this for a sec. >>> >>> Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's >>> opinion standpoint, ok? >>> >>> this way it's more fair. >>> >>> 1. We all agree this is a new O S, right? >>> >>> 2. We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right? Uh dab >>> dab dap? Holdit! I'm not done, listen to me! I'm still talking. You'll >>> get your chance. I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed in >>> a software update. I'll address that in a second. right now, we're just >>> looking at the facts. OK? So I repeat: >>> >>> 2. Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy? Yes, >>> or no. >>> >>> 3. Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been >>> addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the official >>> release? Yes or no>? >>> >>> 4. Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and tollerated >>> to some degree? >>> >>> OK then. >>> >>> I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and >>> everyone else on list by some members. Look, I feel you all's frustration, >>> we just want things to work, but we also are getting frustrated at the >>> nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many. But, there is a >>> delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once Lion is more >>> progressed. Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what the bird >>> state right now. >>> >>> do we need to chill? OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really think >>> that an O S should be this buggy before official release? I know you all >>> don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off hearing >>> it, but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the truth. The >>> blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is beginning to fail >>> miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty. Now, does this mean I'm >>> saying that they are purposefully? doing this? No! Mark it in red what I >>> say here: Ab, suh, lootly? not! I think they're just becoming more and >>> more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved. Maybe they're trying to >>> take on too much at once. I, don't, know! I don't know what goes on >>> behind the scenes there? I probably don't, wanna? know! The point is, we >>> really can't make accusations, can we! We don't know if they're really >>> working behind the scene or not. So, on the one hand, should we probably >>> just chill? Yes, but, having said that, is it mortally wrong for me to >>> constructively complain about observations I've found? Yes. Is it >>> justifiable to say negative things about bugs I find which we all knkow >>> exist? Yes! It's just an observation/opinion people? It's not your spouce >>> who won't... umm... I'm not finishing that... LOL! ROFL! >>> >>> You get the point. >>> >>> So in my defense, I ask jpeole, please be more gentle with me. I'm only >>> trying to help you all, and make suggestions. I may come on harsh at >>> times, I know I do, but for god sake, cut me some slack! I'm frustrated! >>> Can you blame me? Are we not all at one point or another in life? Bluntly? >>> Deal with it, or don't read my mail! It's not rocket science! >>> >>> OK, I'm not gonna keep ranting and raving about htis. I've said my peace >>> and hopefully've been heard. Enough is enough, in all respect fiarness to >>> all of you all. 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