I enjoy reading email on the mac, mainly because I can interact with the messages table, and read just the subject of each message, I get through my email much faster than I can in windows, once I upgrade to lion, I will probably switch to the classic view. I can't think of any advantage to doing email in windows. On Jul 23, 2011, at 2:40 PM, David Tanner wrote:
> I am glad that you found what you needed on the iPad. > > Meantime, I decided I would jump into mail and just see what everybody was > complaining about. Well, the first thing I did was to make a few changes > that I personally prefer and I have to say that thus far, after reading about > 25 messages I think I am happier with mail now than I was before when I quit > using the email on the Mac back around February. I may actually consider > changing and reading my email on the Mac. > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:56 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi David: >> Very well said. It's so easy to gripe and start blaming someone when what >> we did before doesn't work the same anymore. >> I like the way you've pointed this out. It sounds much better than I could >> have done. >> >> Take care >> Oh, and BTW: found that iPad setting. Thanks again. >> >> Carolyn >> >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:13 PM, David Tanner wrote: >> >>> How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is >>> new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned >>> the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of >>> those who are complaining of problems who are new or relatively new to >>> Apple in the first place, and now they are trying to deal with a new >>> operating system which was announced to have way over 200 changes and new >>> features. >>> >>> People need to realize that it is going to take more than 24 hours to learn >>> a new operating system that has over 250 changes and new features. And, >>> how many of these folks have sat down with the list of new features and >>> even read through them to learn how to use those new features? >>> >>> Let's see where things are a month from now. I bet by then there are going >>> to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues >>> >>> >>>> I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd >>>> say, they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I >>>> totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only >>>> reason I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at >>>> this. I mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all >>>> these bugs. come on, lookit! We have some beta testers on here, do we >>>> not? Admit it, did you all see any of these bugs? If not, then wow. I >>>> apologize. Really I do. I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm >>>> ashamed of myself, but, really, think about this for justa minute. OK, >>>> you all can shoot me, I know you may want me to shut up, as does a few >>>> people who we won't mention, but, if they and all you others will please I >>>> beg you, just! for once, hear me out for a second. >>>> >>>> If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up. >>>> >>>> Just let me have this for a sec. >>>> >>>> Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's >>>> opinion standpoint, ok? >>>> >>>> this way it's more fair. >>>> >>>> 1. We all agree this is a new O S, right? >>>> >>>> 2. We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right? Uh dab >>>> dab dap? Holdit! I'm not done, listen to me! I'm still talking. You'll >>>> get your chance. I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed >>>> in a software update. I'll address that in a second. right now, we're >>>> just looking at the facts. OK? So I repeat: >>>> >>>> 2. Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy? Yes, >>>> or no. >>>> >>>> 3. Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been >>>> addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the >>>> official release? Yes or no>? >>>> >>>> 4. Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and >>>> tollerated to some degree? >>>> >>>> OK then. >>>> >>>> I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and >>>> everyone else on list by some members. Look, I feel you all's >>>> frustration, we just want things to work, but we also are getting >>>> frustrated at the nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many. >>>> But, there is a delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once >>>> Lion is more progressed. Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what >>>> the bird state right now. >>>> >>>> do we need to chill? OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really >>>> think that an O S should be this buggy before official release? I know >>>> you all don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off >>>> hearing it, but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the >>>> truth. The blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is >>>> beginning to fail miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty. Now, >>>> does this mean I'm saying that they are purposefully? doing this? No! >>>> Mark it in red what I say here: Ab, suh, lootly? not! I think they're >>>> just becoming more and more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved. >>>> Maybe they're trying to take on too much at once. I, don't, know! I >>>> don't know what goes on behind the scenes there? I probably don't, wanna? >>>> know! The point is, we really can't make accusations, can we! We don't >>>> know if they're really working behind the scene or not. So, on the one >>>> hand, should we probably just chill? Yes, but, having said that, is it >>>> mortally wrong for me to constructively complain about observations I've >>>> found? Yes. Is it justifiable to say negative things about bugs I find >>>> which we all knkow exist? Yes! It's just an observation/opinion people? >>>> It's not your spouce who won't... umm... I'm not finishing that... LOL! >>>> ROFL! >>>> >>>> You get the point. >>>> >>>> So in my defense, I ask jpeole, please be more gentle with me. I'm only >>>> trying to help you all, and make suggestions. I may come on harsh at >>>> times, I know I do, but for god sake, cut me some slack! I'm frustrated! >>>> Can you blame me? Are we not all at one point or another in life? >>>> Bluntly? Deal with it, or don't read my mail! It's not rocket science! >>>> >>>> OK, I'm not gonna keep ranting and raving about htis. I've said my peace >>>> and hopefully've been heard. Enough is enough, in all respect fiarness to >>>> all of you all. 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