Hi,

I just want to say, thanks to the person who mentioned using the favorites bar. 
 Its freaking amazing.  lol.  here's what you do, if the favorites bar is not 
already shown press command option shift H to show it.  Now go to your mailbox 
table and interact.  Navigate to the mailbox you want in favorites and press VO 
comma to mark the mailbox for drag and drop.  Now stop interacting with the 
mailbox table and navigate to the favorites bar.  It is near the toolbar btw, 
and press VO period to drop the mailbox into to the favorites bar.  Now, you 
can press command plus the corresponding number to jump directly into the 
messages table for that mailbox no matter where you are in mail.  You can 
double check what number your mailbox is by going to mailbox in the menu bar 
and opening the go to favorite mailbox sub menu.  Even better, you can move 
messages from one mailbox to the next with a keystroke.  When on the message 
you want to move all one needs to do is add control to the favorite mailbox 
command.  for example, lets say my Macvisionaries mailbox is the first item in 
my favorites.  It would be assigned the number 1 to to jump to it I would press 
command 1.  Now lets say my gmail inbox was the 2nd item in favorites so it 
would be jumped to by pressing command 2.  Now lets pretend I wanted to move a 
message from the macvisionaries mailbox to my gmail inbox.  I would just have 
to be on said message and press command control 2.

This is a really, really, cool feature.  To remove a mailbox from the favorites 
bar you can't use the new drag and drop method.  Here's how you do it though.  
Interact with the favorites bar and navigate to the mailbox you wish to remove. 
 Now if your mouse cursor is not following your VO cursor you will need to 
press VO command F5 to move the mouse cursor to the VO cursor manually.  After 
that, press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse down.  Now, stop 
interacting with the favorites bar and VO right arrow once to the mailbox 
table.  Finally just press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse up and you 
will hear Mail make a sound to indicate the mailbox was removed from favorites. 
 Keep in mind, if you don't have your mouse cursor set to follow your VO 
cursor, when you move to the mailbox you will have to move the cursor manually 
again with VO command spacebar.  Btw, the keystrokes can be found in the menu 
bar under mailbox then explore the go to favorite mailbox sub menu and the Move 
To Favorite Mailbox submenu.

hth

Ricardo Walker
[email protected]
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Keith Watson wrote:

Hi guys,

Funny enough I have switched from using quick nab in mail to not using it. I 
now switch between my mailboxes and message area using the tab key and only use 
quick nab to have the messages in a thread read automatically when they don't.

>> I find this to use much fewer key strokes and am glad Scott finally 
>> convinced me to do it this way.


Keith
On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:11 AM, David Taylor wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm playing with the new layout too. I just use Quick Nav a lot more than I 
> used to in mail. I wonder if quite a few of the changes will make me default 
> to having quick nav switched on most of the time now. I certainly like the 
> way the preview is working for me as there are quite a few messages I would 
> probably have opened before that I am not doing now.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:56, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I wanted to give my impressions of the new OS X Mail, which I'm slowly 
>> coming to grips with.  I've decided to force myself to use it in the new 
>> layout, and have actually had some success with it.
>> To begin with, the VoiceOver Getting started guide suggests using it with 
>> the VO cursor, and I have to agree.  Doing it this way seems to be quite 
>> fast, and is working quite well for me.  You can jump quickly between the 
>> table of messages and the message proper with vo-j.
>> Conversations can either be expanded or not, depending on whether you need 
>> to work with the individual messages in them.  By default it seems the focus 
>> is on the first unread message of every conversation, and they are displayed 
>> in reverse-chronological order, which makes sense to me as you're likely to 
>> be concerned with the recent messages over the older ones.
>> Attachments work pretty much as they always have.  You'll find a popup 
>> button in the message headers allowing you to save them, and a Quick-look 
>> button allowing you to preview them.  This all requires the VO cursor for 
>> navigation, of course, but thus far I've had no real problems with it and in 
>> fact it is quite similar to how I used mail in SL.
>> I hope you all give the new Mail a chance to work as intended before 
>> immediately jumping into the classic layout, as effective as that still is.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
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