Ricardo,
That was very very useful. Dragging an item off the favorites bar in Lion mail 
has been a mystery, but no more. Thanks a lot.
On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just want to say, thanks to the person who mentioned using the favorites 
> bar.  Its freaking amazing.  lol.  here's what you do, if the favorites bar 
> is not already shown press command option shift H to show it.  Now go to your 
> mailbox table and interact.  Navigate to the mailbox you want in favorites 
> and press VO comma to mark the mailbox for drag and drop.  Now stop 
> interacting with the mailbox table and navigate to the favorites bar.  It is 
> near the toolbar btw, and press VO period to drop the mailbox into to the 
> favorites bar.  Now, you can press command plus the corresponding number to 
> jump directly into the messages table for that mailbox no matter where you 
> are in mail.  You can double check what number your mailbox is by going to 
> mailbox in the menu bar and opening the go to favorite mailbox sub menu.  
> Even better, you can move messages from one mailbox to the next with a 
> keystroke.  When on the message you want to move all one needs to do is add 
> control to the favorite mailbox command.  for example, lets say my 
> Macvisionaries mailbox is the first item in my favorites.  It would be 
> assigned the number 1 to to jump to it I would press command 1.  Now lets say 
> my gmail inbox was the 2nd item in favorites so it would be jumped to by 
> pressing command 2.  Now lets pretend I wanted to move a message from the 
> macvisionaries mailbox to my gmail inbox.  I would just have to be on said 
> message and press command control 2.
> 
> This is a really, really, cool feature.  To remove a mailbox from the 
> favorites bar you can't use the new drag and drop method.  Here's how you do 
> it though.  Interact with the favorites bar and navigate to the mailbox you 
> wish to remove.  Now if your mouse cursor is not following your VO cursor you 
> will need to press VO command F5 to move the mouse cursor to the VO cursor 
> manually.  After that, press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse down.  
> Now, stop interacting with the favorites bar and VO right arrow once to the 
> mailbox table.  Finally just press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse up 
> and you will hear Mail make a sound to indicate the mailbox was removed from 
> favorites.  Keep in mind, if you don't have your mouse cursor set to follow 
> your VO cursor, when you move to the mailbox you will have to move the cursor 
> manually again with VO command spacebar.  Btw, the keystrokes can be found in 
> the menu bar under mailbox then explore the go to favorite mailbox sub menu 
> and the Move To Favorite Mailbox submenu.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Funny enough I have switched from using quick nab in mail to not using it. I 
> now switch between my mailboxes and message area using the tab key and only 
> use quick nab to have the messages in a thread read automatically when they 
> don't.
> 
>>> I find this to use much fewer key strokes and am glad Scott finally 
>>> convinced me to do it this way.
> 
> 
> Keith
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:11 AM, David Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm playing with the new layout too. I just use Quick Nav a lot more than I 
>> used to in mail. I wonder if quite a few of the changes will make me default 
>> to having quick nav switched on most of the time now. I certainly like the 
>> way the preview is working for me as there are quite a few messages I would 
>> probably have opened before that I am not doing now.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:56, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I wanted to give my impressions of the new OS X Mail, which I'm slowly 
>>> coming to grips with.  I've decided to force myself to use it in the new 
>>> layout, and have actually had some success with it.
>>> To begin with, the VoiceOver Getting started guide suggests using it with 
>>> the VO cursor, and I have to agree.  Doing it this way seems to be quite 
>>> fast, and is working quite well for me.  You can jump quickly between the 
>>> table of messages and the message proper with vo-j.
>>> Conversations can either be expanded or not, depending on whether you need 
>>> to work with the individual messages in them.  By default it seems the 
>>> focus is on the first unread message of every conversation, and they are 
>>> displayed in reverse-chronological order, which makes sense to me as you're 
>>> likely to be concerned with the recent messages over the older ones.
>>> Attachments work pretty much as they always have.  You'll find a popup 
>>> button in the message headers allowing you to save them, and a Quick-look 
>>> button allowing you to preview them.  This all requires the VO cursor for 
>>> navigation, of course, but thus far I've had no real problems with it and 
>>> in fact it is quite similar to how I used mail in SL.
>>> I hope you all give the new Mail a chance to work as intended before 
>>> immediately jumping into the classic layout, as effective as that still is.
>>> Best,
>>> Zack.
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