Sorry for my total ignorance here, but i can't understand the point, even for a 
sighted person to have all windows from last session or even earlier sessions 
opened. I mean yes, if Safari has crashed, then it might be a good idea to 
reopen all windows from last session but why always? It would make sence if 
earlier windows opened in tabs, but like this? I just don't get it.
/Krister

24 jul 2011 kl. 00:23 skrev Tim Kilburn:

> Hi,
> 
> John is correct.  As mentioned in a separate thread, you can use the 
> cmd-option-q which will Quit and Discard Windows, thus allowing you to 
> startup Safari from your Homepage.  Alternatively, you can go into your 
> system Preferences, select the General pane and uncheck the box for 
> Recovering Windows.  It sometimes doesn't take effect right away, but it 
> will.  If you have problems with this, please repost and someone will assist.
> 
> Later…
> 
> On 2011-07-23, at 2:11 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  Have you tried quitting Safari with, option-command-q instead of just 
>> command-q?  I believe this will close all of the active Safari Windows and 
>> will not have them open next time you start Safari.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Shen wrote:
>> 
>>> Teresa,
>>> I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets Safari 
>>> open all the windows from the last session.
>>> So that doesn't work.
>>> Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit Safari, 
>>> close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit.
>>> I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of all 
>>> windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home page?
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last 
>>>> session".
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I 
>>>>> prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now 
>>>>> opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as 
>>>>> I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other little quirk I 
>>>>> have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't always put me 
>>>>> in the html content and start interacting with it. I have to press 
>>>>> VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with it. The second issue is not 
>>>>> that bad, but just a little annoying.
>>>>> I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page 
>>>>> and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before quitting 
>>>>> Safari.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an 
>>>>>> issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if 
>>>>>> not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that 
>>>>>> doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've 
>>>>>> got a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic 
>>>>>> here, and it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the 
>>>>>> pages i had up last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when 
>>>>>> first starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i 
>>>>>> don't want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and taking 
>>>>>> focus away from the page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting 
>>>>>> somewhere, only i can't find it.
>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or 
>>>>>>> lion.  The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, 
>>>>>>> freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and 
>>>>>>> safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links.  If you REALLY want to 
>>>>>>> download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads.  
>>>>>>> Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as 
>>>>>>> the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web.  I am 
>>>>>>> glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail.  I think we 
>>>>>>> all just need to calm down a bit.  As far as apple not caring, just 
>>>>>>> because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care.  They don't 
>>>>>>> talk to anyone, it's as simple as that.  Missy, I really hope you get 
>>>>>>> your power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion 
>>>>>>> issue either.  Calm down everyone.  :) 
>>>>>>> Chris Westbrook
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys.
>>>>>>>> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since 
>>>>>>>> Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away.
>>>>>>>> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It 
>>>>>>>> can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup.
>>>>>>>> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is 
>>>>>>>> starting to become not VO related anymore.
>>>>>>>> Thanks and for those that need too, chill!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris:
>>>>>>>>> Do yourself and all of us a favor:
>>>>>>>>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a 
>>>>>>>>> pointless rave like this.  No one really needs to hear it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, 
>>>>>>>>>> why in the heck is it, that if I go to either
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Or:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hj.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff 
>>>>>>>>>> happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with 
>>>>>>>>>> me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting 
>>>>>>>>>> some ground...  anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't 
>>>>>>>>>> get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the 
>>>>>>>>>> roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for windows screen 
>>>>>>>>>> reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 download link, if you 
>>>>>>>>>> hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the page cannot be found.  
>>>>>>>>>> Now, here's the weird part.  If I try this from my xp pro sp3 
>>>>>>>>>> machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, 
>>>>>>>>>> same network l A n, same public I P address, same internet 
>>>>>>>>>> connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing 
>>>>>>>>>> changes but the platform, the download works like a charm!  Let me 
>>>>>>>>>> say this, no jokes.  I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly 
>>>>>>>>>> am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, 
>>>>>>>>>> Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you 
>>>>>>>>>> compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a 
>>>>>>>>>> point, but no you really don't, OK.  This isn't about one screen 
>>>>>>>>>> reader being better than another.  this is about the item chooser, 
>>>>>>>>>> and the router, and the downloading in Safari consistently across 
>>>>>>>>>> many pages be very inconsistently odd in behavior.  Take it as such. 
>>>>>>>>>>  If you can't offer anything resourcesful and just wanna throw 
>>>>>>>>>> lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, 
>>>>>>>>>> in the mood for it.  OK?  Please, if you all test and find the same 
>>>>>>>>>> thing, let me know.  I'd be interested if anyone knows why the 
>>>>>>>>>> things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying.  I'm frustrated yes, 
>>>>>>>>>> the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing 
>>>>>>>>>> to, but people, come on!  I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not 
>>>>>>>>>> the one who decided to jup into Lion right away.  You're right.  
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon.  But, that really isn't your 
>>>>>>>>>> right to say.  The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the Lion 
>>>>>>>>>> update by the minute.  What ticks me off more though is Apple 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in another 
>>>>>>>>>> more rellavant post.  It's making my experience though not very 
>>>>>>>>>> enjoyable, I tell ya that! though.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
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