Hi, No, you're right, of course. I just got a bit ahem carried away when i saw that the page i opened last didn't get focus. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to and work around if necessary. Btw, anyone messed with the mission control and found out what can be done in it? /Krister
24 jul 2011 kl. 12:54 skrev Zachary Kline: > Dear Krister, > This change impacts everybody, sighted or not. It's an artifact of Lion's > resume feature, as has been previously said. The difference with sighted > people is that they can click on windows to move between them quickly. We > have a few choices for emulating this, including the window chooser (vo-f2 > f2) and the Apple shortcut cmd-`. FInally, we have Mission Control, the same > as sighted people, so could use that as well if we wanted to. THis change > really shouldn't be a deal breaker for anybody, it takes a few seconds at > most to switch pages, and I have trouble imagining a setting where a few > seconds is absolutely essential. > Best, > Zack. > On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, >> There has to be a good way of doing this, otherwise, it feels like a real >> deal breaker and one i don't understand the point with. Why would i want to >> look at pages i've looked at before, unless ofcorse it's something very >> important i forgot to do on the page or something. >> If the latest page got focus, it may not be so bad, but it's always the >> earlier pages that has focus. >> /Krister >> >> 23 jul 2011 kl. 21:57 skrev Shen: >> >>> Teresa, >>> I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets Safari >>> open all the windows from the last session. >>> So that doesn't work. >>> Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit Safari, >>> close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit. >>> I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of all >>> windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home page? >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>>> In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last >>>> session". >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Teresa >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I >>>>> prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now >>>>> opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as >>>>> I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other little quirk I >>>>> have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't always put me >>>>> in the html content and start interacting with it. I have to press >>>>> VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with it. The second issue is not >>>>> that bad, but just a little annoying. >>>>> I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page >>>>> and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before quitting >>>>> Safari. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an >>>>>> issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if >>>>>> not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that >>>>>> doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've >>>>>> got a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic >>>>>> here, and it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the >>>>>> pages i had up last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when >>>>>> first starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i >>>>>> don't want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and taking >>>>>> focus away from the page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting >>>>>> somewhere, only i can't find it. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or >>>>>>> lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, >>>>>>> freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and >>>>>>> safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to >>>>>>> download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. >>>>>>> Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as >>>>>>> the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. I am >>>>>>> glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I think we >>>>>>> all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not caring, just >>>>>>> because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. They don't >>>>>>> talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you get >>>>>>> your power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion >>>>>>> issue either. Calm down everyone. :) >>>>>>> Chris Westbrook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since >>>>>>>> Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away. >>>>>>>> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It >>>>>>>> can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup. >>>>>>>> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is >>>>>>>> starting to become not VO related anymore. >>>>>>>> Thanks and for those that need too, chill! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Chris: >>>>>>>>> Do yourself and all of us a favor: >>>>>>>>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a >>>>>>>>> pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, >>>>>>>>>> why in the heck is it, that if I go to either >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Or: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.hj.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff >>>>>>>>>> happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with >>>>>>>>>> me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting >>>>>>>>>> some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't >>>>>>>>>> get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the >>>>>>>>>> roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for windows screen >>>>>>>>>> reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 download link, if you >>>>>>>>>> hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the page cannot be found. >>>>>>>>>> Now, here's the weird part. If I try this from my xp pro sp3 >>>>>>>>>> machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, >>>>>>>>>> same network l A n, same public I P address, same internet >>>>>>>>>> connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing >>>>>>>>>> changes but the platform, the download works like a charm! Let me >>>>>>>>>> say this, no jokes. I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly >>>>>>>>>> am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, >>>>>>>>>> Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you >>>>>>>>>> compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a >>>>>>>>>> point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't about one screen >>>>>>>>>> reader being better than another. this is about the item chooser, >>>>>>>>>> and the router, and the downloading in Safari consistently across >>>>>>>>>> many pages be very inconsistently odd in behavior. Take it as such. >>>>>>>>>> If you can't offer anything resourcesful and just wanna throw >>>>>>>>>> lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, >>>>>>>>>> in the mood for it. OK? Please, if you all test and find the same >>>>>>>>>> thing, let me know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the >>>>>>>>>> things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, >>>>>>>>>> the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing >>>>>>>>>> to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not >>>>>>>>>> the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're right. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really isn't your >>>>>>>>>> right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the Lion >>>>>>>>>> update by the minute. What ticks me off more though is Apple >>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it >>>>>>>>>> doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in another >>>>>>>>>> more rellavant post. It's making my experience though not very >>>>>>>>>> enjoyable, I tell ya that! though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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