No, I just happen to be one of those terrible assistive technology specialist that tells it the way he sees it and sometimes some of the big boys in the assistive technology field don't necessarily like what I say, but they know that I wouldn't say something is bad unless I have the facts to back up what I say.

On the other hand, those that I work with would tell you that I don't play favorites with one product or another. And, I don't try to push a product down people's throats that they don't want. Nor will I push a product on someone unless I believe that it will truely meet their needs.


----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues


Hi David:
Can you be bribed?

On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:24 PM, David Tanner wrote:

I am certainly glad that I don't see nearly as many bugs in VoiceOver as you will find in the shark.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues


Hi,

In regards to the iWork stuff, Its kinda unfair to pin that on the Lion OS in my opinion. after all, There has not been a major update to iWorks since 2009. Lets see what the next big release will mean for accessibility. And in regards to the lack of new features, hmm, I don't know. For example, How many new features exist in jaws 12 that weren't there in jaws 10? I'm not sure how many new features one can really cram into a screen reader in 2 years. And as far as the bugs go, its not like Apple is going to delay Their new OS because of some Voiceover bugs. Lets give it an update or 2 to see what happens?

Ricardo Walker
[email protected]
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Luca wrote:

I agree,  i was expecting a lot more from  vo in lion... look,  two
years have passed  since last release, and what have you  new? ok
activities, single navigation letter (which could have been made
better...), international voices (very buggy, cant deny it...), and
new drag and drop...
Well in two  years only these things is a little on my opinion..
Braille support is terrible, whe told them, wrote a lot of mail... and
nothing has changed.
Still You cannot do decent word processing with vo, no tables, no
footnnotes detection, no title/list  detection...
Ok some of these  things you can do wiith pages but in  an extremely
convoluted and non efficient way..
And what about numbers? you can use it in a very basic way only...
And i am not speaking of bugs, those i hope will be fixed.. but there
are  quite significant ones....

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