Thanks. I look forward to Mike's podcast. Sent from my iPhone
On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:36 PM, "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi! I don't have instructions for you, as I asked Apple about doing a fresh > install when I was on the phone with them on Friday, and they claim it can't > be done. Installing over SL is, at least from what I understand, the only > correct and recommended way. Still, if someone does have instructions that > work, I'm sure they'll post them, and I'm sure that Mike Arigo's Lion podcast > will prove to be extremely helpful. > Good luck, and I hope you get everything working! > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: voiceover, lion, and safari > > I wish to do a fresh install of Lion as I burnt the image to DVD but I could > not do it. > > If anyone could write to me off list with instructions please. I had to > install over SL. > > Thanks. > > Kawal. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, count me in as one of those who did an upgrade overtop of SL and find >> they do not wish to return to SL from Lion. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go >>> back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said >>> other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to >>> Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>> Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am >>> seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. >>> >>> I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my >>> applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from >>> scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing >>> all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and >>> smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to >>> SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John Panarese >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: >>> >>>> I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other >>>> system changes >>> >>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, >>>>> again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? >>>>> If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Take Care >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> John Panarese >>> >>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work >>>>>> properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and >>>>>> many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only >>>>>> navigate with the left and right arrow keys. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and >>>>>> announce doc items…thanks for that >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Cody >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links >>>>>>> option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It >>>>>>> does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can >>>>>>> easily navigate. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Panarese >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using >>>>>>>> option to move items. the items move, but I get no >>>>>>>> feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a >>>>>>>> current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives >>>>>>>> you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the >>>>>>>> downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and >>>>>>>>> hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and >>>>>>>>> the arrow keys to move the items? >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any >>>>>>>>> problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as >>>>>>>>> well. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, [email protected] is the address to send comments and >>>>>>>>> feedback to Apple. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John Panarese >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For >>>>>>>>>> example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when >>>>>>>>>> trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats >>>>>>>>>> the title of the page. also, moving items on the >>>>>>>>>> doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues >>>>>>>>>> to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them >>>>>>>>>> too? I believe it's [email protected] but I'm not sure… >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cody >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 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