Hi Rachel, Kliph, and others,
I would never have figured out how to do Sharp Keys without these tips.
I'm sure once I follow the directions and do the reverse in each column it
will work.
If I get stuck though I'm taking Kliph up on the offer of a Skype contact!
Below are the amazingly detailed directions Paul sent for using VM fusion to re
map keys.
Hi Eric Caron,
Your first question, what to do about a non-existent insert key inside a
virtual machine, is quite a story if you want to know the ins and outs. Along
the way, we will get there. Here you go.
First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you often
do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of 2
ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far as I'm
aware, but it is a little trickey to set up because of an interface issue in
fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys program.
Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For example,
using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or your right option
key, to the windows insert.
If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines willl get an insert
key. If you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using the
fusion keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion
only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, and not
on a per machine basis, command e.
If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a local
setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies the
windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same result:
an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down as if it were
a modifier key for other keys.
This answers your other issue, where capslock cannot be used inside the virtual
machine as a modifier. It works as a caps lock, but you can't hold it down and
press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give commands to your
screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will give you an insert key
like the one on a normal windows computer. This lets you use insert rather than
caps lock for your screen reader's commands, so let's concentrate on insert,
and I will leave caps lock for someone else.
Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion 3.1.3,
which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar in
fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then follow
the instructions.
First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines shut
down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences.
At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click keyboard and
mouse. A new window will appear.
The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose your
keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets, and all
those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I don't
think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the button allows.
Leave it at its default.
The first tab sheet of this dialog, named, key mappings, is where you can swap
your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your command key to
the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows alt key. This is not
very intuitive for those of us who are used to windows and its keyboard layout,
but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this window, you will also be able to
create your insert key inside fusion, and if you want, give yourself a num lock
toggle as well.
If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows
counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For example,
in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. On the
mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there is a
default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In other
words, pressing control c or command c in windows will do the same thing. This
is non-standard windows tweaking I don't like, so what I did to begin with, is
clear this entire list. To the right of this table, you have 2 unlabeled
buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete and entry in this
table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo space until the list
is empty. You will also delete the undesired alt and windows logo key mappings
this way.
Now, you must create your own mappings, so that your mac command key will
become the alt key in windows, and so that your option key can become your
windows logo key inside windows. Here's how to do it.
First, click add, to add a new mapping to the table. This is the left unlabeled
button, to the right of the table. A new window appears, that you will later
close with an ok button to return here.
In the new window, you see your mac modifier keys with checkboxes, and a combo
box for an additional key. For example, you will hear shift unchecked checkbox,
and command, unchecked checkbox. In this case, where we want to map our option
key to the windows logo key, we don't need the combo boxes in this dialog, so
ignore them for now. Focus on the from, and the to, parts.
We are mapping our option key to the windows logo key. In the from, area, tick
the checkbox for the option key. Leave the rest in the from for what it is.
Next, find the text that says, to. Here, you will find checkboxes for the
windows counterparts of the mac key you are mapping. Now take care. One of
those checkboxes will only say, checkbox, without a description like alt, or
control. It is this unlabeled checkbox that we need to map our option key to.
On the screen, this checkbox, in the to, field, is an icon with the windows
logo key. So tick that box. Finally, proceed to the okay button and press it.
You will return to the command comma, toolbar item keyboard and mouse screen,
where you pressed the unlabeled add button. your first key mapping, is in
place. Option is now windows logo as soon as the virtual windows machine is
active.
Now, repeat the same procedure for your alt key. So, click add, then in the
from, field, tick command, then in the to, field, click alt, and press okay.
Now that you know how to remap keys, you can do the same thing for your insert
key. However, this is where it is a little tricky and you will soon understand
why.
As above, again click the add button in this dialog. Reminder: we came here by
starting fusion, then command comma, then keyboard and mouse from the toolbar,
then the first tab sheet named key mappings.
After the remapper dialog with the from, and to, field, appears again, do the
following to create your insert key.
In the from, field, you need to choose which key on your keyboard is going to
loose its function for windows, and act as your new insert key. Leave all the
checkboxes for the modifier keys like shift, option etc alone, and focus on the
combo box with voiceover. Once focus is on this field, assuming you have
keyboard focus track your voiceover cursor, as is the voiceover default, then
you can now input the key you wish. I use the accent key, just below escape on
the mac keyboard. Press it, or press your own choice, and you will hear it
spoken by voiceover.
Of course, because this is a combo box, it does have a few presets, and you can
reach them with vo space. However, once you do this, you cannot get out of the
box anymore with vo right or anything, because that keystroke too, will be
interpreted as the key combination you are going to map. So, my advice is not
to go through the 13 presets of this combo. Instead, never open it and just
type your desired insert key replacement, once the voiceover cursor and
keyboard focus is on the combo box in the from, field. Don't open the combo,
just type your key when the box is focused.
Now, focus on the combo box of the to, field. This second combo box, you do
need to open with vo space, because you need to select the item named insert.
However, you should only walk to it with the voiceover cursor, and you should
not press vo space. This is the oddity you need to be aware of. This is because
if you press vo space on the insert item in the combo box, then vo space, as
well as all subsequent keys, will be interpreted as the key you want to execute
when you press accent, and you don't have a way to close the combo box to get
to the okay button.
So, after walking to the insert item with voiceover, and the to, combo box is
still open, you must command tab away from fusion, to have os10 focus move out
of the combo box. Depending on what you had open, you may land in the finder.
Command tabbing away from fusion is the only keystroke I have found, to get you
away from the combo box. Then, simply command tab back into fusion, and you
will find that the combo box is now closed, and it is set to insert.
Now, all you do is go to ok and click it. You will be returned to the key
mapping dialog, where the list of keystrokes can be found. Now, you should have
3 mappings. One for command to become alt, one for option and windows logo, and
a third for accent, that is now remapped to insert inside any fusion virtual
machine.
If you want to give yourself a num lock toggle, that can be achieved the same
way you created your insert key. Let's say you want to toggled your num lock
with control shift f12. So, first click add, then in the from, field, click,
for example, the control and the shift box, go to the first combo, select f12,
move to the second combo in the to, field, and select numlock from there.
Again, don't forget to open the box, walk to numlock, command tab away and then
back into fusion, and hit okay.
This is what you need to do in the first tab sheet of the fusion keyboard and
mouse dialog, and as I said, it was quite a story.
We're not done yet. In the second tab sheet, named mouse shortcuts, you can
tell fusion how you want to do a right click in windows. The mac only has a
normal mouse click, and not a separate left and a right one, so by default,
holding the control key and then pressing the mouse pad, a control click, will
perform a right mouse click in windows, as if you pressed the secondary button.
Nothing need to be changed here. Of course, you have your windows shift f10 key
combination as the keyboard equivalent of the right mouse click. Furthermore,
you can also create your own windows applications key, normally near your
arrows on a windows keyboard, the same way you created your alt and windows
keys above.
The third tab sheet, named fusion shortcuts, can make life a lot easier for us,
screenless folks. By default, if you're inside the virtual machine and you
happen to hit f12, f11 or another magic mac key that does something under os10,
then even if you are inside the vm, you will fly out of it, and land somewhere
where you will need to turn on voiceover, command tab back into fusion,
minimize windows with command control enter, move the voiceover cursor to where
it says progress bar because that's where windows shows up minimized, turn off
voice over with command f5, and finally enlarge windows back to normal with
command control enter, the same keystroke used to minimize windows. A lot of
work, and not funny if you discover that windows no longer talks and you don't
know which key you hit by accident.
So, what you do is, turn the checkbox off here that says: enable mac os
keyboard shortcuts. Now, if you accidentally hit f12 or f11, it won't mess up
things any longer. These keystrokes will instead be passed to windows, and no
longer to os10 disturbing your windows experience.
In the fourth tab sheet of this dialog, named fusion shortcuts, you can enable
and disable a number of key combinations that you can press when the virtual
windows machine is running, that affect fusion itself. You can mess with these
because there is a friendly restore to defaults button as well. You will find a
table here that you can interact with. On each line, a key combination is
listed, along with a checkbox to enable it. Here's a few explained.
Full screen. You need this keystroke, to make windows full screen when it is
minimized. It is the control command enter to minimize and maximize windows, as
already mentioned. Make sure you have this checked.
There are nine others, and some of them I have turned off, for reasons
explained below.
Unity: this makes one space out of the windows desktop and the mac side. So
far, I have never used it in daily work, because I can't figure out how it
works. If you play with it and find out some benefits, please let us know. I
have this off, to avoid accidentally dropping into unity.
Also off are cycle through windows, and cycle through windows reverse. This is
because we can easily do this with voiceover, and I don't want to loose
keystrokes that may otherwise be used for jaws or NVDA commands.
Next is hide application. I have this off as well, because if you're in the
middle of a windows program and you want help, it is likely that you begin by
pressing alt h to open the help menu. But watch out for this one, because if
you don't turn off command h for the virtual machine, and remember that alt and
command are now the same key, then instead of opening the help menu inside your
windows program, you will instead hide fusion completely, and be dropped into
os10 where you don't have speech for the moment unless you turn it on. I fell
into this pit some 5 times until I realized what might be going on here.
Turning this key combination off resolved the issue. Now, pressing alt h will
nicely open the help menu in windows, and you will no longer be kicked out.
Next, there is hide others. I have this off, because it does something to os10
where I have no speech as long as I'm inside windows, and you want to let
windows get your keystrokes as much as possible.
The same goes for settings, the next key to turn off, which in fusion is
command e. I hear you thinking. Usually command comma is for settings. Correct.
However, command comma in fusion opens the general preferences for all virtual
machines and fusion, while command e, as in echo, opens the settings for your
specific virtual machine. How many processor cores to allocate it, how much ram
etc. So, if windows wants you to press alt e, then you don't want to
speechlessly land into fusion settings. Rather, you want the alt e command to
run in windows. Turn this off.
The last key to turn of is command q for quit. Again, we don't have speech
outside fusion so we can safely turn this off, so that command q, or alt q for
windows, is available to windows and not to fusion or os10.
If you want to use sharp keys instead, let me know.
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Rachel magario wrote:
> Eric, for sharp keys to work it requires 2 registrations per each key, you
> want to map.
> For example, if you want the right option key to be the insert, you would do
> two entries.
> The right option in windows would be the right windows key, therefore:
> 1. you make the right windows key go to insert and register.
> Then the sharp keys wonders: "hey where do i put this right windows key now?
> I cannot evict this guest and leave it on the streets!" :) Also sharp keys is
> not that sharp, because it says I have this room hanging open where insert
> used to be. It does not know insert never existed in the first place on the
> mac key board.
> So then you have to do a second entry.
> 2. if your sharp keys is still open just go to add key. and now make the
> opposite entry, now insert to right windows key and register. Then you can
> restart.
> In your case you just have to make a new entry for grave in the first column
> and insert in the second column, and register then restart and see if that
> does the trick for you.
> sharp keys really believes life is a give and take! :)
> Hope it made some sense and you can manage to make it work this time.
> Also, do you mind sending it just to me or posting in this thread Paul's
> instructions. I like to know more than one way of doing things, we never know
> when it can come on handy.
> I am glad French is working well for you. I was learning japanese and I had
> lots of trouble to find any thing on PC that was compatible with jaws and I
> did not wanted to buy a $1200 japanese jaws, plus a computer installed with
> japanese windows and all that jess.
> I am using windows 7, but to say the true I would have sticked with xp, just
> because I have to learn how to use windows in a new key board and it has some
> new features that I am not used to it and since my mac does most every
> thing, I feel lazy to learn all tips and treks of windows 7.
>
> HTH,
> Rachel
>
> On Sep 8, 2011, a, Eric Caron wrote:
>
>> Hi Rachel,
>>
>> I found Sharp keys thanks to a earlier post but I have not successfully
>> mapped a key in Windows 7. I put Insert in the first column and Grave in
>> the second then pressed the write to registry button but it didn't seem to
>> take. I did restart as recommended. Is it possible I have the order wrong?
>>
>>
>> It seems like many listers have gotten this to work but it has thrown me. I
>> plan to give it another try so any tips would be welcome.
>>
>> I'm really pleased to hear you have it working with Windows 7 as that was a
>> concern of mine as well.
>> Anyone starting out on VM Fusion and following this thread would certainly
>> have a big head start!
>>
>>
>> I can relate to your first experience on the Mac. The learning curve is
>> steep in the beginning. Luckily for many of us we stumble onto a list like
>> this one. Only a few weeks into using my Mac I met a list member here and
>> he contacted me with Skype. We now not only exchange Mac tips but both of
>> us are learning French so part of my Mac success has been in both languages!
>>
>> Again, if you have simple clear directions on remapping keys in using Sharp
>> Keys, that would help a lot to have VM Fusion work best.
>>
>> I saved Paul's directions on Using the VM Fusion option. they were
>> excellent directions and I can repost them for anyone who wants them. But,
>> they sounded a bit beyond my skill level at this moment.
>>
>> Eric Caron
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Rachel magario wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, thanks for the welcome! I have been using Mac for a while and very
>>> much discovering things on my own. I used to follow a list called I can
>>> work this thing when I bought my first mac. But I sold it 3 months after I
>>> bought since I could not get to far. Last year in my last job mac was the
>>> only computers around, so I had to learn! :) I am really glad I found this
>>> list and it is so active and the people really nice.
>>> About changing keys: I am not sure what Paul said, since I did not find the
>>> post. But I just used sharp keys a small software for windows that let you
>>> map your key board as you like and it is pretty easy and straightforward. I
>>> was afraid it was not going to work with windows 7 since it is an old
>>> program, but it works just fine. Install on your windows side and then just
>>> open and you will have 2 areas one for the key you have and what you want
>>> that key to be.
>>> For example my right option key is my insert key in my windows side. Let me
>>> know if you want to know more about, I'll make a email just for that.
>>> With this program I also created my application key that helps me to right
>>> click on things when I am in windows. Therefore creating a shortcut to open
>>> jaws was very easy, just go to your programs, find jaws, right click or
>>> press the application key then click on properties and make your shortcut
>>> to open jaws.
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Rachel
>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rachel,
>>>>
>>>> This support list is really a big part of why I love using my Mac. I
>>>> have become a much more productive user because of the help of many people
>>>> here. I've even made some great off list connections.
>>>>
>>>> Your tips here are a good addition to what people have offered. I've
>>>> saved many of these messages in a special VM mail box. I think I will
>>>> follow your example and eventually start over with a new installation.
>>>> I'm going to get a 64 bit version of Windows 7 and see if I notice a
>>>> difference in performance.
>>>>
>>>> Your comment about short cuts is helpful. I've saved a a description
>>>> from Paul on how to use VM Fusion to change keys but I must admit it
>>>> seemed like a real challenge.
>>>>
>>>> VM Fusion seems like it should be so easy but it is pretty complicated. I
>>>> suspect these threads will be helpful to many listers.
>>>>
>>>> By the way Parallels is known for not being accessible to blind users.
>>>> I'm amazed you had success at all.
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the list!
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Rachel magario wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eric, I am new in the list and I see you got lots of tips already. But
>>>>> for me, I just had to delete all my virtual machines, reinstall from
>>>>> scratch and configured my setting only after I had the full license of
>>>>> jaws running. And insure my fusion had the vmware tools installed and
>>>>> running.
>>>>> I also have full sharing setting between both systems. Every thing works
>>>>> well now. But I also made a shortcut to start jaws in case something goes
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>> My only big trouble is the keyboard, because a lot of my jaws short cuts
>>>>> conflicts with some of my mac ones. I hardly use jaws any more though.
>>>>> It was a freedom support person who helped me decided to finally switch
>>>>> to a MAC, but unfortunately every time I have called after, they always
>>>>> tell me jaws does not work in the virtual machine, since first I had
>>>>> parallels and I had lots of issues until I switch to fusion. It does work
>>>>> well for the most part.
>>>>> Hope this can be of help
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Rachel
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:06 PM, David McLean wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare. I didn't tell them
>>>>>> I was running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn't he approve? Why would FS even care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my
>>>>>>>> activation. I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under
>>>>>>>> Fusion and as soon as the representative heard that he said he would
>>>>>>>> not support me by giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a
>>>>>>>> native windows PC. This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition
>>>>>>>> for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie was there and I told him
>>>>>>>> that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not approve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>>>>>>>> (E-mail/MSN):
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Skype ID):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kawalgucukoglu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Mobile/text):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +447905618396
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kawal,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least
>>>>>>>>> three of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac
>>>>>>>>> use. Two years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned
>>>>>>>>> that when working on a unrelated JAWS problem. The Rep told me to
>>>>>>>>> get the Mac and I would love it. He was correct! The other day I
>>>>>>>>> had another issue and before I knew it the rep was asking me
>>>>>>>>> questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was considering
>>>>>>>>> getting a Mac. Most recently I called for help with my work PC and
>>>>>>>>> Jaws. I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and
>>>>>>>>> told him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not
>>>>>>>>> supported. In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed
>>>>>>>>> familiar with the Mac. The Mac seems to, in my experience, be
>>>>>>>>> becoming popular with at least some of these reps. It really was one
>>>>>>>>> of these reps that was the final straw resulting in my purchase of my
>>>>>>>>> Mac. I've never looked back!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called,
>>>>>>>>> but in all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready
>>>>>>>>> knowledgeable about the Mac or curious about them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am
>>>>>>>>> convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be
>>>>>>>>> better then my experience on a native PC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that
>>>>>>>>>> you were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support
>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>>>>> Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same
>>>>>>>>>>> problem as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in
>>>>>>>>>>> jaws, don't hold from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now
>>>>>>>>>>> resolved. We, that is my friend and his friend, and I, have all
>>>>>>>>>>> been looking into the problem. We have checked the permissions on
>>>>>>>>>>> the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, to see if
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws,
>>>>>>>>>>> on other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would
>>>>>>>>>>> not. We were starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even
>>>>>>>>>>> one of the Belgian freedom scientific workers helped debugging the
>>>>>>>>>>> problem one entire afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's
>>>>>>>>>>> friend, came up with the solution, found by accident.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I
>>>>>>>>>>> know of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby
>>>>>>>>>>> destroying all your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws
>>>>>>>>>>> afterwards, you may find that from then on, jaws will remember its
>>>>>>>>>>> settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, and whatever. Please try that
>>>>>>>>>>> and report back on it, because it seems that this is a nasty jaws
>>>>>>>>>>> bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's friend
>>>>>>>>>>> encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He passed it
>>>>>>>>>>> on, and now it works for my friend as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kawal and Paul,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this added info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I
>>>>>>>>>>>> deleted the real Boot Camp. now each time I start the virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine I get a strange message that says something like can not
>>>>>>>>>>>> connect file User/ecaron/library/application support/VM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 will
>>>>>>>>>>>> start disconnected. I then press OK and things seem to work all
>>>>>>>>>>>> right. this error message made me concerned so I decided to
>>>>>>>>>>>> create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal
>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS directly. That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still
>>>>>>>>>>>> in 40 minute mode. It seems to work except it won't hold the
>>>>>>>>>>>> check box setting to start at log in. This makes me concerned
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it won't work correctly. Plus I need it to come up talking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have two machines available at the moment. I only on ant
>>>>>>>>>>>> one but I can't get either one to work correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate the tips and information. Even just knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> close to having this working! Perhaps there is just a setting I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to fix in one of the machines.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tips are greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> importing their bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you what is wrong. Can't you remove the authorization from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Listers using VM Fusion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for future listers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got Jaws 12 to instal. No matter what I do when I restart the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual machine Jaws will not come up talking. I noticed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once I check the box for it to start at start up the check box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is unchecked the next time I look at it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold the JAWS settings. Anyone have this working and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings and authorization sticking? Any tips? This mac lover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been spending way too much time trying to get this VM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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