thanks a lot! Now in another note related to this tic, would you know how to chang the key which is assigned as the jaws key in the jaws it self? I mean I have trouble because in laptop mode sometimes the capslock key works as the jaws key and some functions only work with the capslock instead of the insert key. I asked freedom a while ago but they would not help. they just said if the key was not working it was because it was a virtual machine and jaws just does not work. Of course this is not a mac related question directly. But I read in version 11 and 12 we can reassign the jaws key to a few different options. I just wonder how? Rm On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> Hi Rachel, Kliph, and others, > > I would never have figured out how to do Sharp Keys without these tips. > I'm sure once I follow the directions and do the reverse in each column it > will work. > > If I get stuck though I'm taking Kliph up on the offer of a Skype contact! > > Below are the amazingly detailed directions Paul sent for using VM fusion to > re map keys. > > Hi Eric Caron, > > Your first question, what to do about a non-existent insert key inside a > virtual machine, is quite a story if you want to know the ins and outs. Along > the way, we will get there. Here you go. > > First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while you often > do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in 1 of 2 > ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as far as > I'm aware, but it is a little trickey to set up because of an interface issue > in fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys > program. Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. > For example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or your > right option key, to the windows insert. > > If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines willl get an insert > key. If you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using > the fusion keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because > fusion only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command comma, > and not on a per machine basis, command e. > > If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to be a > local setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys modifies > the windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same > result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held down as > if it were a modifier key for other keys. > > This answers your other issue, where capslock cannot be used inside the > virtual machine as a modifier. It works as a caps lock, but you can't hold > it down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give > commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, will > give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows computer. This lets > you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's commands, so > let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for someone else. > > Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using fusion > 3.1.3, which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu bar > in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, and then > follow the instructions. > > First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual machines > shut down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences. > > At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click keyboard > and mouse. A new window will appear. > > The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you choose your > keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab sheets, and > all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse profile. I > don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's what the button > allows. Leave it at its default. > > The first tab sheet of this dialog, named, key mappings, is where you can > swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will map your command > key to the windows logo key, and your option key to the windows alt key. This > is not very intuitive for those of us who are used to windows and its > keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In this window, you > will also be able to create your insert key inside fusion, and if you want, > give yourself a num lock toggle as well. > > If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some windows > counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at all. For > example, in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. > On the mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there > is a default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of control c. In > other words, pressing control c or command c in windows will do the same > thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't like, so what I did to > begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table, you have 2 > unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete and entry > in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo space > until the list is empty. You will also delete the undesired alt and windows > logo key mappings this way. > > Now, you must create your own mappings, so that your mac command key will > become the alt key in windows, and so that your option key can become your > windows logo key inside windows. Here's how to do it. > > First, click add, to add a new mapping to the table. This is the left > unlabeled button, to the right of the table. A new window appears, that you > will later close with an ok button to return here. > > In the new window, you see your mac modifier keys with checkboxes, and a > combo box for an additional key. For example, you will hear shift unchecked > checkbox, and command, unchecked checkbox. In this case, where we want to map > our option key to the windows logo key, we don't need the combo boxes in this > dialog, so ignore them for now. Focus on the from, and the to, parts. > > We are mapping our option key to the windows logo key. In the from, area, > tick the checkbox for the option key. Leave the rest in the from for what it > is. Next, find the text that says, to. Here, you will find checkboxes for the > windows counterparts of the mac key you are mapping. Now take care. One of > those checkboxes will only say, checkbox, without a description like alt, or > control. It is this unlabeled checkbox that we need to map our option key to. > On the screen, this checkbox, in the to, field, is an icon with the windows > logo key. So tick that box. Finally, proceed to the okay button and press it. > You will return to the command comma, toolbar item keyboard and mouse screen, > where you pressed the unlabeled add button. your first key mapping, is in > place. Option is now windows logo as soon as the virtual windows machine is > active. > > Now, repeat the same procedure for your alt key. So, click add, then in the > from, field, tick command, then in the to, field, click alt, and press okay. > > Now that you know how to remap keys, you can do the same thing for your > insert key. However, this is where it is a little tricky and you will soon > understand why. > > As above, again click the add button in this dialog. Reminder: we came here > by starting fusion, then command comma, then keyboard and mouse from the > toolbar, then the first tab sheet named key mappings. > > After the remapper dialog with the from, and to, field, appears again, do the > following to create your insert key. > > In the from, field, you need to choose which key on your keyboard is going to > loose its function for windows, and act as your new insert key. Leave all the > checkboxes for the modifier keys like shift, option etc alone, and focus on > the combo box with voiceover. Once focus is on this field, assuming you have > keyboard focus track your voiceover cursor, as is the voiceover default, then > you can now input the key you wish. I use the accent key, just below escape > on the mac keyboard. Press it, or press your own choice, and you will hear it > spoken by voiceover. > > Of course, because this is a combo box, it does have a few presets, and you > can reach them with vo space. However, once you do this, you cannot get out > of the box anymore with vo right or anything, because that keystroke too, > will be interpreted as the key combination you are going to map. So, my > advice is not to go through the 13 presets of this combo. Instead, never > open it and just type your desired insert key replacement, once the voiceover > cursor and keyboard focus is on the combo box in the from, field. Don't open > the combo, just type your key when the box is focused. > > Now, focus on the combo box of the to, field. This second combo box, you do > need to open with vo space, because you need to select the item named insert. > However, you should only walk to it with the voiceover cursor, and you should > not press vo space. This is the oddity you need to be aware of. This is > because if you press vo space on the insert item in the combo box, then vo > space, as well as all subsequent keys, will be interpreted as the key you > want to execute when you press accent, and you don't have a way to close the > combo box to get to the okay button. > > So, after walking to the insert item with voiceover, and the to, combo box is > still open, you must command tab away from fusion, to have os10 focus move > out of the combo box. Depending on what you had open, you may land in the > finder. Command tabbing away from fusion is the only keystroke I have found, > to get you away from the combo box. Then, simply command tab back into > fusion, and you will find that the combo box is now closed, and it is set to > insert. > > Now, all you do is go to ok and click it. You will be returned to the key > mapping dialog, where the list of keystrokes can be found. Now, you should > have 3 mappings. One for command to become alt, one for option and windows > logo, and a third for accent, that is now remapped to insert inside any > fusion virtual machine. > > If you want to give yourself a num lock toggle, that can be achieved the same > way you created your insert key. Let's say you want to toggled your num lock > with control shift f12. So, first click add, then in the from, field, click, > for example, the control and the shift box, go to the first combo, select > f12, move to the second combo in the to, field, and select numlock from > there. Again, don't forget to open the box, walk to numlock, command tab away > and then back into fusion, and hit okay. > This is what you need to do in the first tab sheet of the fusion keyboard and > mouse dialog, and as I said, it was quite a story. > > We're not done yet. In the second tab sheet, named mouse shortcuts, you can > tell fusion how you want to do a right click in windows. The mac only has a > normal mouse click, and not a separate left and a right one, so by default, > holding the control key and then pressing the mouse pad, a control click, > will perform a right mouse click in windows, as if you pressed the secondary > button. Nothing need to be changed here. Of course, you have your windows > shift f10 key combination as the keyboard equivalent of the right mouse > click. Furthermore, you can also create your own windows applications key, > normally near your arrows on a windows keyboard, the same way you created > your alt and windows keys above. > > The third tab sheet, named fusion shortcuts, can make life a lot easier for > us, screenless folks. By default, if you're inside the virtual machine and > you happen to hit f12, f11 or another magic mac key that does something under > os10, then even if you are inside the vm, you will fly out of it, and land > somewhere where you will need to turn on voiceover, command tab back into > fusion, minimize windows with command control enter, move the voiceover > cursor to where it says progress bar because that's where windows shows up > minimized, turn off voice over with command f5, and finally enlarge windows > back to normal with command control enter, the same keystroke used to > minimize windows. A lot of work, and not funny if you discover that windows > no longer talks and you don't know which key you hit by accident. > > So, what you do is, turn the checkbox off here that says: enable mac os > keyboard shortcuts. Now, if you accidentally hit f12 or f11, it won't mess up > things any longer. These keystrokes will instead be passed to windows, and no > longer to os10 disturbing your windows experience. > > In the fourth tab sheet of this dialog, named fusion shortcuts, you can > enable and disable a number of key combinations that you can press when the > virtual windows machine is running, that affect fusion itself. You can mess > with these because there is a friendly restore to defaults button as well. > You will find a table here that you can interact with. On each line, a key > combination is listed, along with a checkbox to enable it. Here's a few > explained. > > Full screen. You need this keystroke, to make windows full screen when it is > minimized. It is the control command enter to minimize and maximize windows, > as already mentioned. Make sure you have this checked. > There are nine others, and some of them I have turned off, for reasons > explained below. > > Unity: this makes one space out of the windows desktop and the mac side. So > far, I have never used it in daily work, because I can't figure out how it > works. If you play with it and find out some benefits, please let us know. I > have this off, to avoid accidentally dropping into unity. > > Also off are cycle through windows, and cycle through windows reverse. This > is because we can easily do this with voiceover, and I don't want to loose > keystrokes that may otherwise be used for jaws or NVDA commands. > > Next is hide application. I have this off as well, because if you're in the > middle of a windows program and you want help, it is likely that you begin by > pressing alt h to open the help menu. But watch out for this one, because if > you don't turn off command h for the virtual machine, and remember that alt > and command are now the same key, then instead of opening the help menu > inside your windows program, you will instead hide fusion completely, and be > dropped into os10 where you don't have speech for the moment unless you turn > it on. I fell into this pit some 5 times until I realized what might be going > on here. Turning this key combination off resolved the issue. Now, pressing > alt h will nicely open the help menu in windows, and you will no longer be > kicked out. > > Next, there is hide others. I have this off, because it does something to > os10 where I have no speech as long as I'm inside windows, and you want to > let windows get your keystrokes as much as possible. > > The same goes for settings, the next key to turn off, which in fusion is > command e. I hear you thinking. Usually command comma is for settings. > Correct. However, command comma in fusion opens the general preferences for > all virtual machines and fusion, while command e, as in echo, opens the > settings for your specific virtual machine. How many processor cores to > allocate it, how much ram etc. So, if windows wants you to press alt e, then > you don't want to speechlessly land into fusion settings. Rather, you want > the alt e command to run in windows. Turn this off. > > The last key to turn of is command q for quit. Again, we don't have speech > outside fusion so we can safely turn this off, so that command q, or alt q > for windows, is available to windows and not to fusion or os10. > > If you want to use sharp keys instead, let me know. > > Hth, > Paul. > > > On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Rachel magario wrote: > >> Eric, for sharp keys to work it requires 2 registrations per each key, you >> want to map. >> For example, if you want the right option key to be the insert, you would do >> two entries. >> The right option in windows would be the right windows key, therefore: >> 1. you make the right windows key go to insert and register. >> Then the sharp keys wonders: "hey where do i put this right windows key >> now? I cannot evict this guest and leave it on the streets!" :) Also sharp >> keys is not that sharp, because it says I have this room hanging open where >> insert used to be. It does not know insert never existed in the first place >> on the mac key board. >> So then you have to do a second entry. >> 2. if your sharp keys is still open just go to add key. and now make the >> opposite entry, now insert to right windows key and register. Then you can >> restart. >> In your case you just have to make a new entry for grave in the first column >> and insert in the second column, and register then restart and see if that >> does the trick for you. >> sharp keys really believes life is a give and take! :) >> Hope it made some sense and you can manage to make it work this time. >> Also, do you mind sending it just to me or posting in this thread Paul's >> instructions. I like to know more than one way of doing things, we never >> know when it can come on handy. >> I am glad French is working well for you. I was learning japanese and I had >> lots of trouble to find any thing on PC that was compatible with jaws and I >> did not wanted to buy a $1200 japanese jaws, plus a computer installed with >> japanese windows and all that jess. >> I am using windows 7, but to say the true I would have sticked with xp, just >> because I have to learn how to use windows in a new key board and it has >> some new features that I am not used to it and since my mac does most every >> thing, I feel lazy to learn all tips and treks of windows 7. >> >> HTH, >> Rachel >> >> On Sep 8, 2011, a, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hi Rachel, >>> >>> I found Sharp keys thanks to a earlier post but I have not successfully >>> mapped a key in Windows 7. I put Insert in the first column and Grave in >>> the second then pressed the write to registry button but it didn't seem to >>> take. I did restart as recommended. Is it possible I have the order >>> wrong? >>> >>> It seems like many listers have gotten this to work but it has thrown me. >>> I plan to give it another try so any tips would be welcome. >>> >>> I'm really pleased to hear you have it working with Windows 7 as that was a >>> concern of mine as well. >>> Anyone starting out on VM Fusion and following this thread would certainly >>> have a big head start! >>> >>> >>> I can relate to your first experience on the Mac. The learning curve is >>> steep in the beginning. Luckily for many of us we stumble onto a list like >>> this one. Only a few weeks into using my Mac I met a list member here and >>> he contacted me with Skype. We now not only exchange Mac tips but both of >>> us are learning French so part of my Mac success has been in both >>> languages! >>> >>> Again, if you have simple clear directions on remapping keys in using >>> Sharp Keys, that would help a lot to have VM Fusion work best. >>> >>> I saved Paul's directions on Using the VM Fusion option. they were >>> excellent directions and I can repost them for anyone who wants them. But, >>> they sounded a bit beyond my skill level at this moment. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Rachel magario wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, thanks for the welcome! I have been using Mac for a while and very >>>> much discovering things on my own. I used to follow a list called I can >>>> work this thing when I bought my first mac. But I sold it 3 months after I >>>> bought since I could not get to far. Last year in my last job mac was the >>>> only computers around, so I had to learn! :) I am really glad I found this >>>> list and it is so active and the people really nice. >>>> About changing keys: I am not sure what Paul said, since I did not find >>>> the post. But I just used sharp keys a small software for windows that let >>>> you map your key board as you like and it is pretty easy and >>>> straightforward. I was afraid it was not going to work with windows 7 >>>> since it is an old program, but it works just fine. Install on your >>>> windows side and then just open and you will have 2 areas one for the key >>>> you have and what you want that key to be. >>>> For example my right option key is my insert key in my windows side. Let >>>> me know if you want to know more about, I'll make a email just for that. >>>> With this program I also created my application key that helps me to >>>> right click on things when I am in windows. Therefore creating a shortcut >>>> to open jaws was very easy, just go to your programs, find jaws, right >>>> click or press the application key then click on properties and make your >>>> shortcut to open jaws. >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Rachel >>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rachel, >>>>> >>>>> This support list is really a big part of why I love using my Mac. I >>>>> have become a much more productive user because of the help of many >>>>> people here. I've even made some great off list connections. >>>>> >>>>> Your tips here are a good addition to what people have offered. I've >>>>> saved many of these messages in a special VM mail box. I think I will >>>>> follow your example and eventually start over with a new installation. >>>>> I'm going to get a 64 bit version of Windows 7 and see if I notice a >>>>> difference in performance. >>>>> >>>>> Your comment about short cuts is helpful. I've saved a a description >>>>> from Paul on how to use VM Fusion to change keys but I must admit it >>>>> seemed like a real challenge. >>>>> >>>>> VM Fusion seems like it should be so easy but it is pretty complicated. >>>>> I suspect these threads will be helpful to many listers. >>>>> >>>>> By the way Parallels is known for not being accessible to blind users. >>>>> I'm amazed you had success at all. >>>>> >>>>> Welcome to the list! >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Rachel magario wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eric, I am new in the list and I see you got lots of tips already. >>>>>> But for me, I just had to delete all my virtual machines, reinstall from >>>>>> scratch and configured my setting only after I had the full license of >>>>>> jaws running. And insure my fusion had the vmware tools installed and >>>>>> running. >>>>>> I also have full sharing setting between both systems. Every thing works >>>>>> well now. But I also made a shortcut to start jaws in case something >>>>>> goes wrong. >>>>>> My only big trouble is the keyboard, because a lot of my jaws short cuts >>>>>> conflicts with some of my mac ones. I hardly use jaws any more though. >>>>>> It was a freedom support person who helped me decided to finally switch >>>>>> to a MAC, but unfortunately every time I have called after, they always >>>>>> tell me jaws does not work in the virtual machine, since first I had >>>>>> parallels and I had lots of issues until I switch to fusion. It does >>>>>> work well for the most part. >>>>>> Hope this can be of help >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Rachel >>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:06 PM, David McLean wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare. I didn't tell them >>>>>>> I was running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway. >>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why didn't he approve? Why would FS even care. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my >>>>>>>>> activation. I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under >>>>>>>>> Fusion and as soon as the representative heard that he said he would >>>>>>>>> not support me by giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a >>>>>>>>> native windows PC. This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition >>>>>>>>> for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie was there and I told him >>>>>>>>> that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not approve. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>>>>>>>> (E-mail/MSN): >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Skype ID): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kawalgucukoglu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Mobile/text): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +447905618396 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Kawal, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least >>>>>>>>>> three of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac >>>>>>>>>> use. Two years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned >>>>>>>>>> that when working on a unrelated JAWS problem. The Rep told me to >>>>>>>>>> get the Mac and I would love it. He was correct! The other day I >>>>>>>>>> had another issue and before I knew it the rep was asking me >>>>>>>>>> questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was considering >>>>>>>>>> getting a Mac. Most recently I called for help with my work PC and >>>>>>>>>> Jaws. I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and >>>>>>>>>> told him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not >>>>>>>>>> supported. In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed >>>>>>>>>> familiar with the Mac. The Mac seems to, in my experience, be >>>>>>>>>> becoming popular with at least some of these reps. It really was >>>>>>>>>> one of these reps that was the final straw resulting in my purchase >>>>>>>>>> of my Mac. I've never looked back! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, >>>>>>>>>> but in all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready >>>>>>>>>> knowledgeable about the Mac or curious about them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am >>>>>>>>>> convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will >>>>>>>>>> be better then my experience on a native PC. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative >>>>>>>>>>> that you were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not >>>>>>>>>>> support this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>>>>>>> Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same >>>>>>>>>>>> problem as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in >>>>>>>>>>>> jaws, don't hold from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now >>>>>>>>>>>> resolved. We, that is my friend and his friend, and I, have all >>>>>>>>>>>> been looking into the problem. We have checked the permissions on >>>>>>>>>>>> the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, to see if >>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, >>>>>>>>>>>> on other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would >>>>>>>>>>>> not. We were starting to think that this was a fusion problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> Even one of the Belgian freedom scientific workers helped >>>>>>>>>>>> debugging the problem one entire afternoon, but no luck. Until my >>>>>>>>>>>> friend's friend, came up with the solution, found by accident. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that >>>>>>>>>>>> I know of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby >>>>>>>>>>>> destroying all your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws >>>>>>>>>>>> afterwards, you may find that from then on, jaws will remember its >>>>>>>>>>>> settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, and whatever. Please try >>>>>>>>>>>> that and report back on it, because it seems that this is a nasty >>>>>>>>>>>> jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's >>>>>>>>>>>> friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He >>>>>>>>>>>> passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> Hth, >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kawal and Paul, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this added info. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I >>>>>>>>>>>>> deleted the real Boot Camp. now each time I start the virtual >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine I get a strange message that says something like can not >>>>>>>>>>>>> connect file User/ecaron/library/application support/VM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect >>>>>>>>>>>>> as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> will start disconnected. I then press OK and things seem to work >>>>>>>>>>>>> all right. this error message made me concerned so I decided to >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal >>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS directly. That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, >>>>>>>>>>>>> still in 40 minute mode. It seems to work except it won't hold >>>>>>>>>>>>> the check box setting to start at log in. This makes me >>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned that it won't work correctly. Plus I need it to come >>>>>>>>>>>>> up talking. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have two machines available at the moment. I only on ant >>>>>>>>>>>>> one but I can't get either one to work correctly. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate the tips and information. Even just knowing >>>>>>>>>>>>> someone else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> close to having this working! Perhaps there is just a setting I >>>>>>>>>>>>> need to fix in one of the machines. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tips are greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> importing their bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you what is wrong. Can't you remove the authorization from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hth, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Listers using VM Fusion, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for future listers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got Jaws 12 to instal. No matter what I do when I restart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the virtual machine Jaws will not come up talking. I noticed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that once I check the box for it to start at start up the check >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box is unchecked the next time I look at it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold the JAWS settings. Anyone have this working and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings and authorization sticking? Any tips? 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