Mark, vo j was not working for me on lion. I just do command o to open a message and command w to close and I am always in the message list. Hope this helps. Rachel. On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
> Appreciate the response, Ray. > > It could be the same update that you installed a few days ago. I only > noticed the software update window this morning, but it could have been > released a while ago. > > I appreciate you sharing your method for reading messages, and I might end up > having to use it, but there are several ways in which it is less efficient > than the one I was using up until this morning. > > First, rather than having to jump back and forth with VO J to read each > message, the method I used only required a press of the VO down or up arrows > to read each message, one keystroke, VO down arrow, as opposed to three, down > arrow followed by VO J to read the message and VO J again to jump back. > > Also, once done with the conversation, I only had to press shift tab and > delete to get rid of the entire conversation. I could do this from anywhere > in the conversation. No searching for the beginning of the conversation to > first close it and then press delete. > > I should restate, it is still possible to tab on a conversation and VO down > arrow through the conversation. The problem is that I no longer know who > sent each message as I land on it. > > There's one other difference that relates to what Ray said. VO J is no > longer working to jump me into the message content. I used to use this to > read messages that weren't part of conversations. Now, if I hit VO J on a > message, I'm brought into the mailbox table, a second VO J brings me back to > the messages table, and continual VO J presses cycles me back and forth > between these two. > > Since VO J still works for Ray, I assume this has something to do with my > configuration, but if others could confirm, I'd appreciate it. > > Cheers, > > Marc > On 2011-09-15, at 8:48 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Well Mark, I did install a security update a few days ago. Could that be >> the one to which you are referring? As for slugishness, I am noticing that, >> when I reply to certain messages, I too get slugish typing response and over >> the keyboard generally. This is not happening right now as I reply to your >> message. >> As for the conversation view, what I normally do is when I run across a 5 >> message conversation or so, I just use the right arrow to open up that >> conversation and arrow down to the first message in that conversation. >> then, if I want to read it, I just use VO+j to interact with the text area >> of the message. When done, I just back out again using VO+j. That brings >> me to the list of messages in the conversation. When I've had enough of the >> conversation, I just go all the way to the top of it, close it with left >> arrow and delete it. Makes it much faster for me that way. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Marc Workman wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed a security update through software update this morning, and it >>> seems to have resulted in some changes to Mail, changes I'm not >>> particularly happy with. >>> >>> I wonder if others have installed the security update and are noticing >>> similar changes. >>> >>> The issue has to do with the message content table. In the past, when I >>> came across a conversation of, say, 9 messages that I wanted to read, I >>> would simply hit tab in order to be taken into the message content table. >>> I could then VO arrow down the messages, and I would hear who sent the >>> message as well as the entire message itself. >>> >>> Now, if I do the same thing, I will sometimes hear who sent it, but I will >>> often just hear the number it holds in the sequence of messages. If it's >>> the third message, VO says 3 and then reads the message. I like to know >>> who sent the message before reading it, rather than possibly discovering >>> the source at the end, assuming that the person signed it at all. >>> >>> I've tried customizing the header information in preferences, but this has >>> not solved the problem. >>> >>> It also seems that I am getting the busy message much more than usual, >>> particularly in the message content table as I am VO arrowing up and down >>> through the messages. Mail also unexpectedly shut down as I was composing >>> this message. Mail is the only app running besides finder, so there is >>> really no reason for the sluggish behaviour. >>> >>> Anyone else noticing this after installing the security update? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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