Another thing I have just thought, when you want to open a message, unlike in 
IOS you can't press a routing cell to open a message when using a Mac Book Pro 
in my case as I did try this using the Essys.  It's frustrating that the 
behaviours are not consistent on both platforms.  If Apple wish to make things 
consistent then they need to do a lot more work to make the Mac Braille more 
consistent.  I will sign up to the development program next year to give 
feedback on braille when the next versions of both products get produced and I 
suggest those who want braille to be better to do the same as collective 
feedback on good braille support may help things along.

Kawal.
On 3 Oct 2011, at 14:10, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi Kawal.
> 
> I agree with you.
> 
> Another thing we could use, is the possibility to set up braille to change 
> language along with the speech. E.G. if I choose a german voice the braille 
> could also be set to change, so it shows german braille.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> 
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I am waiting for Apple to make it possible for a braille user to let you 
>> track when you are reading messages in your mail client.  Thus far my 
>> braille Essys only goes from one message to another when you are in threaded 
>> conversations as this is how I use mail.  Let's hope that Apple does more 
>> braille development soon.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 3 Oct 2011, at 06:56, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> I use a Focus 40 Blue, and there are many fewer commands assigned for it in 
>>> Lion than there were in SL. Also, it seems to be impossible to add more 
>>> Braille keystrokes for the Braille display. It's usable for reading, but 
>>> not for editing. This is already a known issue; Apple developers are aware 
>>> of it.
>>> 
>>> I think it just may be a matter of replacing drivers.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, I'll take the lack of Braille functionality over VO constantly 
>>> losing its settings any day.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is broken in lion since sl?
>>>> Works fine for me. 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from my phone)
>>>> 
>>>> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm still on SL.  They need to fix braille before I upgrade.  I can live 
>>>>> with broken braille support til they get'er done but I can't demo broken 
>>>>> braille support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm eternally glad to hear they've fixed this issue though it is really 
>>>>> irritating me in the worst way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
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>>>>> On 2011-10-01, at 3:42 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you using Lion? In my own experience, VO used to do this a lot in 
>>>>>> Snow, but not at all in Lion. I'm not sure what could be causing the 
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:14 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all, on average about 4 or 5 times a week voiceover dumps all of my 
>>>>>>> preferences.  It happens most often when I am browsing menus but it 
>>>>>>> also happens if I use the script to switch back and fourth between dom 
>>>>>>> and group mode on the web and maybe one or two other happenstances as 
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there anything I can do to minimise this?  I have a backup of my 
>>>>>>> settings but it's really annoying to be in the middle of something and 
>>>>>>> have all my speech braille and sound settings go byebuy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
>>>>>>> When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
>>>>>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
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>>>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>>> 
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