Hi Kawal.

Do you know how we can sign up to the develop program, I would like to do the 
same, I am really tired of all these braille bugs, if we could get some of them 
corrected before the release it would be great.

Best regards Annie.
On Oct 3, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Another thing I have just thought, when you want to open a message, unlike in 
> IOS you can't press a routing cell to open a message when using a Mac Book 
> Pro in my case as I did try this using the Essys.  It's frustrating that the 
> behaviours are not consistent on both platforms.  If Apple wish to make 
> things consistent then they need to do a lot more work to make the Mac 
> Braille more consistent.  I will sign up to the development program next year 
> to give feedback on braille when the next versions of both products get 
> produced and I suggest those who want braille to be better to do the same as 
> collective feedback on good braille support may help things along.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 3 Oct 2011, at 14:10, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal.
>> 
>> I agree with you.
>> 
>> Another thing we could use, is the possibility to set up braille to change 
>> language along with the speech. E.G. if I choose a german voice the braille 
>> could also be set to change, so it shows german braille.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I am waiting for Apple to make it possible for a braille user to let you 
>>> track when you are reading messages in your mail client.  Thus far my 
>>> braille Essys only goes from one message to another when you are in 
>>> threaded conversations as this is how I use mail.  Let's hope that Apple 
>>> does more braille development soon.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 3 Oct 2011, at 06:56, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use a Focus 40 Blue, and there are many fewer commands assigned for it 
>>>> in Lion than there were in SL. Also, it seems to be impossible to add more 
>>>> Braille keystrokes for the Braille display. It's usable for reading, but 
>>>> not for editing. This is already a known issue; Apple developers are aware 
>>>> of it.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it just may be a matter of replacing drivers.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyhow, I'll take the lack of Braille functionality over VO constantly 
>>>> losing its settings any day.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What is broken in lion since sl?
>>>>> Works fine for me. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Sent from my phone)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm still on SL.  They need to fix braille before I upgrade.  I can live 
>>>>>> with broken braille support til they get'er done but I can't demo broken 
>>>>>> braille support.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm eternally glad to hear they've fixed this issue though it is really 
>>>>>> irritating me in the worst way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
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>>>>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
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>>>>>> On 2011-10-01, at 3:42 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you using Lion? In my own experience, VO used to do this a lot in 
>>>>>>> Snow, but not at all in Lion. I'm not sure what could be causing the 
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:14 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all, on average about 4 or 5 times a week voiceover dumps all of my 
>>>>>>>> preferences.  It happens most often when I am browsing menus but it 
>>>>>>>> also happens if I use the script to switch back and fourth between dom 
>>>>>>>> and group mode on the web and maybe one or two other happenstances as 
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there anything I can do to minimise this?  I have a backup of my 
>>>>>>>> settings but it's really annoying to be in the middle of something and 
>>>>>>>> have all my speech braille and sound settings go byebuy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>>>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
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>>>>>>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
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