I'm not seeing this with my set up. On my Macbook Pro using Lion it works fine. I plug it in to the USB port, press a cursor routing button and it works fine. well at least it works in terms of reading braille; I have had no joy writing with it. The cursor wheels also work fine for me. Go into the voiceOver utility, to the braille category, then in braille displays have a look at the settings. Perhaps change the primary braille display setting to, use all braille displays. I haven't got my Mac with me where I am at the moment, so I can't be more specific.
Let me know how you get on. On 05/10/2011, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > You might want to use it with Bluetooth only. There is a bug that doesn't > allow it to utilize the USB properly. I can get the USB to work, but only > after the display has been idle for about fifteen minutes. Also, in USB > mode, the whiz wheels do not function. > > HTH, > Teresa > On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:47 PM, David Eagle wrote: > >> When you plug it in it should automatically show something on the >> display. Mine said Battery Charging. To get it to show you what's >> appearing on your computer though, press one of the cursor routing >> buttons. The two rows above your display. This works fine for me. >> >> On 05/10/2011, Becky Knaub <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> Do Focus 40 Blue braille displays work with the MAC? >>> If they do as I think they do Could anyone tell me how to make My MBP >>> detect >>> the display when its plugged in the USB port? It won't detect the display >>> either way ad I have tried everything I can think of. >>> Since I really need the display to work so I can edit my papers for >>> school I >>> would appreciate if anyone could help. >>> >>> Second Is it possible to play ogg files on the mac and if so what version >>> of >>> the software would I need to get for an MBP with Lion on it? >>> >>> Thanks , >>> >>> >>> >>> Becky >>> >>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Today's Topic Summary >>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >>>> >>>> Selecting in safari [11 Updates] >>>> THank you, Esther [1 Update] >>>> The continuing adventures of David eagle and his Apple Mac computer. >>>> this >>>> time it's about Sendspace. [2 Updates] >>>> Question about Conversation View in YoruFukurou [1 Update] >>>> update on searching mailbox for specific messages in lion [1 Update] >>>> ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store! [1 Update] >>>> Voice Over And Safari [2 Updates] >>>> Option-click [1 Update] >>>> accessing instant message while in a voice chat in skype [1 Update] >>>> Am I a Member of this group? [3 Updates] >>>> I can't download anything all of a sudden [1 Update] >>>> Topic: Selecting in safari >>>> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:06AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hey all. >>>> I have important information on a facebook message and I need to select >>>> everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming possible >>>> and I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with this >>>> please let me know. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:24AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> The way I've found to do it is: >>>> 1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired >>>> selection. >>>> 2. Hit vo-enter. >>>> 3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the >>>> selection. >>>> 4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy. >>>> >>>> There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could find on Google >>>> when I tried selecting the other day. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:33AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting >>>> things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why though. >>>> Thanks for the response. >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:35AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Did you interact with the text? I also got no speech and nothing >>>> selected, but it was because I hadn't interacted with what I wanted to >>>> copy. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:39AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Yep, interacted with the text, it said selecting, then I selected what I >>>> wanted to, and hit VO enter and hit command c and it dinged at me. >>>> Matt >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:44AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Once you interact, press vo-enter before selecting, then use normal >>>> navigation (not holding down shift) to move to the end and hit >>>> vo-enter again. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:49AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hey Matt. >>>> One thing that you might want to try is this. >>>> First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy >>>> Then, press VO shift C to copy the last phrase to the clipboard. >>>> Finally, go to text edit or where ever and paste >>>> Just keep doing that over and over until you have all that you want. >>>> It's >>>> kind of annoying way to do it but... >>>> One thing to keep in mind is that when VO reads text in safari, it's >>>> reading paragraph by paragraph. >>>> HTH. >>>> >>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:33 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:54AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hey, that worked. Thanks for that. Kind of sucks that you can't just do >>>> select all and copy. Ah well. >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:49 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:55AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of text >>>> last spoken, not just the phrase. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> Oct 05 10:08AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> According to the keyboard help, VO shift A only slects it. However, I've >>>> never tried it before. >>>> >>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Søren Jensen" <[email protected]> Oct 05 04:17PM +0200 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> You can do the following which might work: >>>> Use the latest version of webkit. >>>> 1: Find the text you wanna copy >>>> 2: press Vo command f5 >>>> 3: press Vo command shift space to hold down the mouse button >>>> 4: Hold down shift and press the down arrow to select the text you want. >>>> 6: Press command c to copy >>>> 7. Press Vo command shift space again to release the mouse button. >>>> Hope that will work for you. >>>> Best regards: >>>> Søren Jensen >>>> Mail & MSN: >>>> [email protected] >>>> Website: >>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>> >>>> Den 05/10/2011 kl. 16.08 skrev Matthew Campbell: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: THank you, Esther >>>> Allison Manzino <[email protected]> Oct 05 09:48AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Esther, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your helpful post about my query with Itunes. I really >>>> appreciate all your help and instructions. It worked like a charm. Have >>>> a >>>> great day. >>>> >>>> Allison >>>> >>>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >>>> >>>> Topic: The continuing adventures of David eagle and his Apple Mac >>>> computer. this time it's about Sendspace. >>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Oct 05 07:55AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> Thanks for the cmd-shift-g command, that will really make a difference! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> Garth Humphreys <[email protected]> Oct 05 11:40PM +1000 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi David >>>> >>>> As another new user to the Mac I can certainly understand your >>>> frustration. The Safari busy busy thing is seriously annoying. Stronger >>>> words would, of course, be called for if we weren't in polite company :) >>>> >>>> As for Finder, at first I called it Loser as I couldn't use it to find a >>>> thing. Now however after about 3 weeks it seems completely fine and I >>>> can >>>> be just as efficient in it as on Win 7 / XP. I pretty much ignore the >>>> side >>>> bar. It can be useful however the key board shortcuts seem quicker to >>>> me. >>>> As someone else has said try using column view. Command+3 will get you >>>> into this view. When in this view you can navigate through folders in a >>>> standard tree structure. You need to make sure you have quick nab off. >>>> The >>>> up & down arrows will take through the folders at a given level and the >>>> left and right arrows can be used to collapse and expand folders. >>>> Combine >>>> this with some keyboard shortcuts and all is good, at least in my >>>> opinion. >>>> Command+shift+C will take you to the top computer level where you can >>>> see >>>> the various drives and network. >>>> Command+shift+H will take you to your home folder, i.e., inside the >>>> users >>>> folder. >>>> Command+shift+A will take you to your Applications folder. >>>> Command+Option+L will take you into your downloads folder. I'm not sure >>>> but maybe this is supposed to be the exception that proves the rule :) >>>> Command+shift+O will take you to your documents >>>> Command+shift+D will go to your desktop. >>>> >>>> There are of course others as well. >>>> >>>> anyway I hope this helps a bit. You certainly aren't alone with your >>>> frustrations. I am still glad I have windows at work where I need to get >>>> work done. >>>> So far I haven't found Safari on the Mac as good as it is on IOS, >>>> especially on the iPad where I think it is fantastic. Then again I got >>>> my >>>> iPad 1 on the day it was first released and I have only been using OSX >>>> for >>>> a few weeks. >>>> >>>> Good luck >>>> Garth >>>> >>>> On 05/10/2011, at 6:32 AM, David Eagle wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: Question about Conversation View in YoruFukurou >>>> Robert Carter <[email protected]> Oct 05 08:22AM -0500 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Mark, >>>> >>>> You can fix this problem by clicking the zoom button. >>>> >>>> Robert Carter >>>> On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: update on searching mailbox for specific messages in lion >>>> Paul Erkens <[email protected]> Oct 05 03:09PM +0200 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Ioana, >>>> >>>> I'm using Apple mail on Lion in the new look, classic view off. I tried >>>> the suggestion, but when on the message table, without any interacting, >>>> it >>>> won't work. Each key press of the search text sends a bang from the >>>> speakers. Could it be that you are reading mail in classic view? >>>> >>>> Regarding the work around: I didn't know about that feature but if you >>>> are >>>> looking for specific messages it's not too big a deal to temporarily >>>> turn >>>> on classic view. Thanks for the idea. I'm hoping that outside classic >>>> view, there's a solution as well. I tried moving the mouse over to the >>>> message table, but that doesn't seem to make a difference either. I >>>> think >>>> I'll drop [email protected] a line about it. >>>> Paul. >>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: ChromeVox is now on the Chrome Web Store! >>>> Garth Humphreys <[email protected]> Oct 05 10:39PM +1000 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Kevin >>>> >>>> Thanks for the instructions for deleting the extension prior to >>>> reinstalling from the web store. It worked perfectly. Do I understand >>>> correctly that one benefit of changing to the web store version is that >>>> the extension will auto update in the same way that Chrome does? >>>> >>>> Garth >>>> >>>> On 05/10/2011, at 12:06 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: Voice Over And Safari >>>> Michael Dailey <[email protected]> Oct 05 07:19AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> I am using Lion on an iMac. >>>> >>>> How do I get Voice Over not to start reading everything on a page, and >>>> just move along when I TAB? >>>> >>>> The VO curser starts jumping all over the screen, and I can't figure out >>>> how to get it back to where I want it. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> David Griffith <[email protected]> Oct 05 01:31PM +0100 ^ >>>> >>>> I think lyon can amend this behaviour by going to the Voiceover Utility >>>> settings navigating down to web and then pressing tab to get to >>>> tab settings. Vo right until you ghet to page loading and then uncheck >>>> the >>>> section which gets Voiceover to automatically read web pages. On 5 Oct >>>> 2011, at 12:19, Michael Dailey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: Option-click >>>> Paul Erkens <[email protected]> Oct 05 02:28PM +0200 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi Austin and Christer, >>>> Option clicking and control clicking something, can indeed be done using >>>> the trackpad, and it isn't a problem for voiceover users, although it >>>> is, >>>> with some other screen readers. >>>> 1. With the vo cursor, find the element that you want to option or >>>> control >>>> click on. >>>> 2. Now, tell voiceover to get the mouse pointer over to this spot on the >>>> screen, using command vo f5. vo is the same as control option. So, the >>>> complete command to get the mouse pointer to where your voiceover cursor >>>> is, is to hold down 3 keys, being option, control and command, and then >>>> pressing f5. >>>> 3. Once the mouse is there, Perform the control, or the option click, as >>>> follows. First hold down either option or control, depending on what you >>>> need, and then press on the lower left corner of the trackpad to make >>>> the >>>> click happen. >>>> >>>> If a sighted user wants to click on something, they do it with the mouse >>>> button. The left one, in windows. To do the same thing in voiceover, >>>> with >>>> the voiceover cursor on an object, we can hit vo space to perform the >>>> normal click. However, voiceover does not have a built-in command for an >>>> option click or a control click. That is why we need to do the same >>>> thing >>>> as a sighted user would, rather than having a dedicated voiceover >>>> command >>>> for it. Bring the mouse pointer to the spot, hold control or option, and >>>> while holding it, click the mouse, or the trackpad. >>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Austin Seraphin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: accessing instant message while in a voice chat in skype >>>> "Vítor Oliveira" <[email protected]> Oct 05 01:08PM +0100 ^ >>>> >>>> Hi: To do it more easily, press vo plus J. The first time you do it you >>>> jump to sidebar tab, the second you will jump to html content. Just >>>> interact with it and press vo plus end to go to the last line. To return >>>> to the editing area, just press vo plus J again. Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> Vítor Oliveira >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A 05/10/2011, às 11:24, Patrick Neazer escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: Am I a Member of this group? >>>> Michael Dailey <[email protected]> Oct 05 07:31AM -0400 ^ >>>> >>>> I went to the discussion page, and it said I could not post because I >>>> was >>>> not a member. >>>> >>>> I am getting email updates daily, I filled out the application. Am I >>>> suppose to log in somewhere? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mike Dailey >>>> >>>> Paul Erkens <[email protected]> Oct 05 01:54PM +0200 ^ >>>> >>>> Michael Dailey, >>>> Yes you seem to be a member. Your message got through to this list. >>>> Paul. >>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Michael Dailey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Dailey <[email protected]> Oct 05 04:59AM -0700 ^ >>>> >>>> Never mind, I was not signed into Google. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Topic: I can't download anything all of a sudden >>>> David Eagle <[email protected]> Oct 04 11:39PM +0100 ^ >>>> >>>> Thank a lot for that tip. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.davideagle.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.davideagle.co.uk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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