Well, I am still very much a baby when it comes to the Mac.  I know very little 
about it and am learning every day I use it.  I don't have an Apple store in my 
area so no training is available.  I'm also not good at just listening to a 
tutorial and then licit split, I can do it.  I'm one of those people that needs 
to play with it and then get to something I don't know how to do and then say, 
"How do I do this?"  basically OJT so to speak:)  I've learned a lot that way.  

There are so many blind people that don't have computers cause they just can't 
afford them.  I think we'd really be surprised if we knew the statistics.  If 
there's anything I can do to help let me know.

Jenny and my goofy guide 'Brooks
On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

> Hi Jenny,
> 
> Thanks for your kindness. I really appreciate it. I do this work for two 
> reasons. 
> 
> 1: can't stand the thought of young people especially students with 
> disabilities who don't get support and are turned away from colleges, etc not 
> having the right access to equipment,
> 2: can't stand the thought of a good mac, no matter what it's age, going to 
> the tip or be destroyed. it just sickens me. a perfectly good, working mac of 
> any kind which can still be used by anyone just being savaged to death is 
> wrong. So I'd rather a fellow blind user get the benefit and my technical 
> support as a hardware based engineer / consultant.
> 
> this is a pretty much, eat, sleap and drink FreeMacsForTheBlind job.
> 
> anyway if ever there's something I can do on here in return, like hardware 
> diagnostics, online system repair training, etc I'm happy to spare the time..
> 
> lew
> Free Macs For The Blind.
> 
> On 27 Nov 2011, at 15:35, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lu,
>> 
>> My name is Jenny and I have no clue about outspoken or most things about 
>> Macs but I just wanted to say that I think what you're doing is really great 
>> and I have so much respect and admiration for you.  Thank you for what you 
>> do.  If it weren't for my Dad, I wouldn't have my Mac Mini so I totally 
>> understand and appreciate the generosity of others.  
>> 
>> You are a gift from GOD and my he bless your efforts.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> 
>>> It's what ever I'm given sadly. At the mo I have on the floor 3 x powermac 
>>> 7600/200 machines about to be upgraded in both ram and HD size and type, 1 
>>> powermac 9600/300 again having the same treatment, 2x G3 beige mini towers 
>>> at 300mhz each undergoing an intensive upgrade. 1 x powermac G4 blue and a 
>>> powermac G4 quicksilver. so there's 2 G4's capable of running OS X 10.4 
>>> without any issues. the others will have to run  OS 9.2 with a decent 
>>> browser, email client, etc and outspoken if I can acquire it.
>>> 
>>> As I say, I take on what I can find. whatever's given to me I accept and 
>>> take on.
>>> 
>>> lew
>>> 
>>> On 26 Nov 2011, at 22:31, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you think you could get machines that run Tiger? At least you could 
>>>> then use VoiceOver. I do not recall the minimum specs, but this would be 
>>>> perhaps an option?
>>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> exactly that. the net is full of dead info. a bit of a pain really
>>>>> 
>>>>> lew
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Nov 2011, at 21:54, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I checked out that synaps site this morn. Found a meantion of Outspoken, 
>>>>>> but not where to buy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day, Mates)
>>>>>> Louie P. "Pete" Nalda
>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda/
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda/
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>>>> Twitter @lpnalda
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi again Louis,
>>>>>> In an effort to keep this on topic smiles.
>>>>>> You really want new copies,not used ones, as outspoken used serial 
>>>>>> numbers, 
>>>>>> and you may run into serious issues trying to install a used copy over 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> over again.
>>>>>> I just did some creative googeling and discovered rather a few trails to 
>>>>>> those who created outspoken,   the parent company referenced in other 
>>>>>> posts, who had its own assets  acquired by optilec in 2005.  That 
>>>>>> company 
>>>>>> may now be synmaps, since outspoken for windows is listed with them.
>>>>>> However the two people who started Berkley systems, Wes Boyd and Joan 
>>>>>> Blade, are alive well and running one of the largest progressive politic 
>>>>>> groups in the country moveon.org.
>>>>>> I managed to find phone numbers for a few folks, can certainly direct 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> to  some others.
>>>>>> It really  depends on how
>>>>>> direct and fast you want the materials, where you 
>>>>>> are based,  and how solid your operation.
>>>>>> It seems to me though that the creative rout may get you what you desire.
>>>>>> contact me off list if I can help further.
>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Who would I need to get hold of now regarding outspoken. at one point 
>>>>>> > as I understand it was alva. So I don't know where else to contact to 
>>>>>> > be honest.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > lew
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 26 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hi Louis,
>>>>>> >> This information may be dated but I understood that the company who 
>>>>>> >> licensed outspoken would  arrange for a copy if the need was 
>>>>>> >> professional as yours seems to be.
>>>>>> >> Have you reached out to them?  Also, not sure where you are located, 
>>>>>> >> but the donations may be tax deductible if you have created that sort 
>>>>>> >> of structure.
>>>>>> >> Karen
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sat, 26 Nov
>>>>>> 2011, Gigi wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Hi Louis
>>>>>> >>> Maybe I am off base here but Apple has a recycling program for 
>>>>>> >>> computers.  Have you asked to see if you could get old Macs that 
>>>>>> >>> way? You would be serving people that would not have the money for 
>>>>>> >>> new Macs right now unless they get better opportunities.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 6:14 AM, "Mr. L. Alexander" 
>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I realise this is a long shot here and could do with a little help.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> My name's Lewis, I'm the main man behind an organisation which has 
>>>>>> >>>> lifted called "Free Macs For The Blind". This is a project I 
>>>>>> >>>> decided to launch to help young blind and visually impaired people 
>>>>>> >>>> including students and those who can't afford technology due to 
>>>>>> >>>> lack of
>>>>>> support or funding.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> How it all works is pretty simple. I take on unwanted apple mac 
>>>>>> >>>> systems from companies and individuals who are happy to donate 
>>>>>> >>>> either computers, parts, software or other products. They are then 
>>>>>> >>>> serviced, tested, upgraded and cleaned by myself, the necessary 
>>>>>> >>>> operating systems installed and ready to go at no cost to me or to 
>>>>>> >>>> potential recipients.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> It's a project I believe in very much and have a support structure 
>>>>>> >>>> in place including sponsors who have kindly donated tools, 
>>>>>> >>>> diagnostic equipment and their services to help out.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> A part of the work involved requires working with older macs 
>>>>>> >>>> including powermacs before G3 blue and white systems where SCSI 
>>>>>> >>>> drives are in use, etc. So the use of Mac OS 9.2 is going to be an 
>>>>>> >>>> essential for some users. I am kitted out with all the software I 
>>>>>> >>>> need in terms of OS installs, etc with help from some amazing
>>>>>> people out there.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The downfall to this is the lack of one piece of software which is 
>>>>>> >>>> important. That is of course OutSPOKEN 9.2 to do all the work 
>>>>>> >>>> needed and where possible include this as a screen reader to users 
>>>>>> >>>> who may receive an older mac, if anything above a g3 blue and white 
>>>>>> >>>> capable of OS 10.4 isn't available to them.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I'm a firm believer in recycling technology where possible, so 
>>>>>> >>>> everything I take on is seerviced to my best possible standards to 
>>>>>> >>>> factory or as near factory as possible. all from home.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Is there anyone here still either using or has a CD of outSPOKEN 
>>>>>> >>>> 9.2 as a complete CD which I could use or anyone be willing to 
>>>>>> >>>> donate?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> For Further details, please contact me at the following email 
>>>>>> >>>> address which is the official port of y project.
>>>>>> >>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Yours with thanks.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Lewis
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> FreeMacsForTheBlind.
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