I certainly will.

Yep It's one of those things. technology being one of those big expenses, 
especially when it comes to disabled users.

I remember the battles I've gone through to get where I am now. that's what has 
partly driven me to this work.

your learning method is a good idea to be honest. We're all here to help. each 
with our own support knowledge, etc.

lew

On 27 Nov 2011, at 16:09, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Well, I am still very much a baby when it comes to the Mac.  I know very 
> little about it and am learning every day I use it.  I don't have an Apple 
> store in my area so no training is available.  I'm also not good at just 
> listening to a tutorial and then licit split, I can do it.  I'm one of those 
> people that needs to play with it and then get to something I don't know how 
> to do and then say, "How do I do this?"  basically OJT so to speak:)  I've 
> learned a lot that way.  
> 
> There are so many blind people that don't have computers cause they just 
> can't afford them.  I think we'd really be surprised if we knew the 
> statistics.  If there's anything I can do to help let me know.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide 'Brooks
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jenny,
>> 
>> Thanks for your kindness. I really appreciate it. I do this work for two 
>> reasons. 
>> 
>> 1: can't stand the thought of young people especially students with 
>> disabilities who don't get support and are turned away from colleges, etc 
>> not having the right access to equipment,
>> 2: can't stand the thought of a good mac, no matter what it's age, going to 
>> the tip or be destroyed. it just sickens me. a perfectly good, working mac 
>> of any kind which can still be used by anyone just being savaged to death is 
>> wrong. So I'd rather a fellow blind user get the benefit and my technical 
>> support as a hardware based engineer / consultant.
>> 
>> this is a pretty much, eat, sleap and drink FreeMacsForTheBlind job.
>> 
>> anyway if ever there's something I can do on here in return, like hardware 
>> diagnostics, online system repair training, etc I'm happy to spare the time..
>> 
>> lew
>> Free Macs For The Blind.
>> 
>> On 27 Nov 2011, at 15:35, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lu,
>>> 
>>> My name is Jenny and I have no clue about outspoken or most things about 
>>> Macs but I just wanted to say that I think what you're doing is really 
>>> great and I have so much respect and admiration for you.  Thank you for 
>>> what you do.  If it weren't for my Dad, I wouldn't have my Mac Mini so I 
>>> totally understand and appreciate the generosity of others.  
>>> 
>>> You are a gift from GOD and my he bless your efforts.
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's what ever I'm given sadly. At the mo I have on the floor 3 x powermac 
>>>> 7600/200 machines about to be upgraded in both ram and HD size and type, 1 
>>>> powermac 9600/300 again having the same treatment, 2x G3 beige mini towers 
>>>> at 300mhz each undergoing an intensive upgrade. 1 x powermac G4 blue and a 
>>>> powermac G4 quicksilver. so there's 2 G4's capable of running OS X 10.4 
>>>> without any issues. the others will have to run  OS 9.2 with a decent 
>>>> browser, email client, etc and outspoken if I can acquire it.
>>>> 
>>>> As I say, I take on what I can find. whatever's given to me I accept and 
>>>> take on.
>>>> 
>>>> lew
>>>> 
>>>> On 26 Nov 2011, at 22:31, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think you could get machines that run Tiger? At least you could 
>>>>> then use VoiceOver. I do not recall the minimum specs, but this would be 
>>>>> perhaps an option?
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> exactly that. the net is full of dead info. a bit of a pain really
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 26 Nov 2011, at 21:54, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I checked out that synaps site this morn. Found a meantion of 
>>>>>>> Outspoken, but not where to buy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day, Mates)
>>>>>>> Louie P. "Pete" Nalda
>>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda/
>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda/
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>>>>> Twitter @lpnalda
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi again Louis,
>>>>>>> In an effort to keep this on topic smiles.
>>>>>>> You really want new copies,not used ones, as outspoken used serial 
>>>>>>> numbers, 
>>>>>>> and you may run into serious issues trying to install a used copy over 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> over again.
>>>>>>> I just did some creative googeling and discovered rather a few trails 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> those who created outspoken,   the parent company referenced in other 
>>>>>>> posts, who had its own assets  acquired by optilec in 2005.  That 
>>>>>>> company 
>>>>>>> may now be synmaps, since outspoken for windows is listed with them.
>>>>>>> However the two people who started Berkley systems, Wes Boyd and Joan 
>>>>>>> Blade, are alive well and running one of the largest progressive 
>>>>>>> politic 
>>>>>>> groups in the country moveon.org.
>>>>>>> I managed to find phone numbers for a few folks, can certainly direct 
>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>> to  some others.
>>>>>>> It really  depends on how
>>>>>>> direct and fast you want the materials, where you 
>>>>>>> are based,  and how solid your operation.
>>>>>>> It seems to me though that the creative rout may get you what you 
>>>>>>> desire.
>>>>>>> contact me off list if I can help further.
>>>>>>> Karen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > Who would I need to get hold of now regarding outspoken. at one point 
>>>>>>> > as I understand it was alva. So I don't know where else to contact to 
>>>>>>> > be honest.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > lew
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 26 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Hi Louis,
>>>>>>> >> This information may be dated but I understood that the company who 
>>>>>>> >> licensed outspoken would  arrange for a copy if the need was 
>>>>>>> >> professional as yours seems to be.
>>>>>>> >> Have you reached out to them?  Also, not sure where you are located, 
>>>>>>> >> but the donations may be tax deductible if you have created that 
>>>>>>> >> sort of structure.
>>>>>>> >> Karen
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Sat, 26 Nov
>>>>>>> 2011, Gigi wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> Hi Louis
>>>>>>> >>> Maybe I am off base here but Apple has a recycling program for 
>>>>>>> >>> computers.  Have you asked to see if you could get old Macs that 
>>>>>>> >>> way? You would be serving people that would not have the money for 
>>>>>>> >>> new Macs right now unless they get better opportunities.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 6:14 AM, "Mr. L. Alexander" 
>>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I realise this is a long shot here and could do with a little help.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> My name's Lewis, I'm the main man behind an organisation which has 
>>>>>>> >>>> lifted called "Free Macs For The Blind". This is a project I 
>>>>>>> >>>> decided to launch to help young blind and visually impaired people 
>>>>>>> >>>> including students and those who can't afford technology due to 
>>>>>>> >>>> lack of
>>>>>>> support or funding.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> How it all works is pretty simple. I take on unwanted apple mac 
>>>>>>> >>>> systems from companies and individuals who are happy to donate 
>>>>>>> >>>> either computers, parts, software or other products. They are then 
>>>>>>> >>>> serviced, tested, upgraded and cleaned by myself, the necessary 
>>>>>>> >>>> operating systems installed and ready to go at no cost to me or to 
>>>>>>> >>>> potential recipients.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> It's a project I believe in very much and have a support structure 
>>>>>>> >>>> in place including sponsors who have kindly donated tools, 
>>>>>>> >>>> diagnostic equipment and their services to help out.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> A part of the work involved requires working with older macs 
>>>>>>> >>>> including powermacs before G3 blue and white systems where SCSI 
>>>>>>> >>>> drives are in use, etc. So the use of Mac OS 9.2 is going to be an 
>>>>>>> >>>> essential for some users. I am kitted out with all the software I 
>>>>>>> >>>> need in terms of OS installs, etc with help from some amazing
>>>>>>> people out there.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> The downfall to this is the lack of one piece of software which is 
>>>>>>> >>>> important. That is of course OutSPOKEN 9.2 to do all the work 
>>>>>>> >>>> needed and where possible include this as a screen reader to users 
>>>>>>> >>>> who may receive an older mac, if anything above a g3 blue and 
>>>>>>> >>>> white capable of OS 10.4 isn't available to them.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I'm a firm believer in recycling technology where possible, so 
>>>>>>> >>>> everything I take on is seerviced to my best possible standards to 
>>>>>>> >>>> factory or as near factory as possible. all from home.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Is there anyone here still either using or has a CD of outSPOKEN 
>>>>>>> >>>> 9.2 as a complete CD which I could use or anyone be willing to 
>>>>>>> >>>> donate?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> For Further details, please contact me at the following email 
>>>>>>> >>>> address which is the official port of y project.
>>>>>>> >>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Yours with thanks.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Lewis
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> FreeMacsForTheBlind.
>>>>>>> >>>>
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