This topic drifted away from the original subject but to bring it back I 
spotted a USB numeric keypad on amazon for £7 so decided to take a punt on it.
I have just plugged it in an although the Mac was very confused by it and said  
it did not recognise it as  a keyboard it nevertheless works perfectly with 
Voiceover and the Num Pad commander.  I just closed keyboard assistant and all 
was fine.  I can now go ahead and purchase a Mac Ergonomic keyboard and 
hopefully the masses of typing I have to do inn the next 12 months will be a 
more pleasurable experience.        

David griffith
On 16 Dec 2011, at 02:23, Keith Watson wrote:




> Will, you used to have to hold the Voice Over keys and navigate with the 
> arrow keys. Quick Nav basically locks you into Voice Over mode so you don't 
> need to hold down the VO keys. It also allows you to rotate through the rotor.
> 
> HTH 
> 
> Keith
> 
> On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:03 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> Excellent! Because I am going to migrate M I G R A T E from the Windows 
>> platform at my earliest convenience.
>> 
>> What's QuickNav?
>> 
>> Thanks for the answer.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12/12/2011, at 20:22, Dan Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is especially true now with quicknav.  I know, everyone has their own 
>>> preference for what's comfortable to them.  but, for me, quicknav was a 
>>> huge improvement.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:42 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>> 
>>>> nope. all the main interface  is with the normal keyboard layout. numpad 
>>>> commander may require it but to be honest I don't use it. just my normal 
>>>> keyboard on my macbook pro.
>>>> 
>>>> am I right in thinking you may be taking the plunge in buying a new mac? 
>>>> if so, may I shake your hand and congratulate you on a wise decision :)
>>>> 
>>>> lol
>>>> 
>>>> lew
>>>> 
>>>> On 12 Dec 2011, at 09:25, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Cheree heppe here:
>>>>> So far, I use IOS devices and not even a MacVook Air.  My Windows screen 
>>>>> reader, Window-Eyes does everything I require of it without any use of a 
>>>>> numpad.
>>>>> Does a Mac-driven laptop with VoiceOver require use of a numpad to 
>>>>> operate?I was planning on trying for a MacBook Air soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/12/2011, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality
>>>>>> ergonomic keyboard for the Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it 
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. 
>>>>>> However
>>>>>> there is one problem. The keyboard does not have a numeric keypad and I 
>>>>>> am a
>>>>>> fan of num pad commander.
>>>>>> The suggestion that they have made to me is that I purchase a separate
>>>>>> numpad keyboard from them to go with the ergonomic keyboard .
>>>>>> The numpad keyboards they sell are standard PC USB devices but they 
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> that they will work on a Mac. Having found it impossible to connect a
>>>>>> windows ergonomic keyboard which is compatible with the Mac I am 
>>>>>> suspicious
>>>>>> of claims that things should be compatible.
>>>>>> Does anybody have successful experience of using a separate numpad 
>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>> with the Mac?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Griffith
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