Brilliantly stated, Ricardo; I could not agree with you more. I am amazed at how some cannot resist the urge to assert that the Mac/VoiceOver is superior to Windows/Jaws/"insert name of screen reader here" or vice versa.
As you eloquently put it, it is a matter of perspective. As for me, I am so great that, for the first time in history, we have choices. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit? I see your point in regards to save as. I personally find no longer having to constantly save my work quite liberating though. In the course of a days work, I will press command S to save my work way more than I will press command shift S to rename or change formats of a duplicate of said work. But I agree, there was really no reason to get rid of save as in the file menu. I don't know about the Mac being more or less cumbersome though. For example, to open settings or options in an application on windows, you will often have to find it in the menu bar some where. On The Mac, you just press command comma no matter what the application. Or lets say you want to change a sync setting in iTunes for your IOS device. You have to tab a bunch of times to the button you want for example, photos, select that then tab a bunch more times until you reach the area with the photo settings. On the Mac, you can use the item chooser to get you straight to photos and then straight to the scroll area with the settings. And once you've done this once, you can set hotspots to jump directly to these points by just pressing VO and a number if you so choose. That beats pressing tab 20 times in my opinion. lol. And then how about downloading an app? If its a DMG file, its just opening the file and copying the app from there to your apps folder. No pressing next 5 times and fooling with cursors to try to read what your agreeing to. If using the Mac app store, its just a matter of typing in your Apple ID and password and hitting enter. So, in short, its all relative. I'm sure you could think of a million and 1 things that windows or jaws might do more efficiently than the Mac or voiceover. I think it just depends on what the tasks one does with their computer. Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Thank you for this information. It's helpful, but is beyond tedius. I > wouldn't suppose Apple would consider restoring previous behavior? > This versions thing is just too weird and cumbersome to be practical. > Command s and command shift s should still be available in my opinion. > This is another reason why I still prefer to use my PC over the mac > for many tasks: while many things are technicly possible on the mac, > it feels as though you have to jump through hoops to accomplish them. > I mean, your message and Ray's above it show at least 5 steps for either saving a different version of a file or restoring 1. I'm sure that the process becomes second nature with practice, but it's just so much more complicated than in wordpad or even full MS word on the PC. Just my opinion of course, but I certainly appreciate you explaining how this whole procedure works under lion. > Missy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 4:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit? > > Yup. > > I'm sorry Donna. I didn't read your post first so I thought you > hadn't already saved the document. This is true there is no save as > as we all know it but, here's what you do. stop interacting with the > scroll area in text edit and navigate over to the versions menu button. In this menu choose duplicate. Here you will be able to rename or save the document in another format. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > [email protected] > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: > >> One correction, Ricardo. Command S saves a version. It does not >> give you a Save As Dialog. And, the document I'm talking > about has already been saved, so I can't get to a Save As dialog by just closing the window. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> all you have to do is press command S. There is really no mystery >>> to this. Also, if you press command w to close the > window, you will be presented with the save as dialog if you haven't already saved the document. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> >>>> I'd love answers to this question as well. I had a document where I >>>> somehow deleted everything, but figured it wasn't a problem because >>>> I could just open a previous version. Well, I never did figure out >>>> how to do that. Fortunately, the good version of the file was still >>>> in dropbox and also on my PC, but this is 1 of the many reasons I >>>> just can't get comfortable with word processing on the mac. I don't >>>> like or understand this save a version thing, and > wish that textedit worked the way it did under Snow Leopard. I > probably wouldn't use it too much more than I do now, but I'd at least be willing to try if it behaved more logically. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:38 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have a situation wherein I use a certain file in different >>>> situations. I would like the option to open the basic file, modify >>>> the content, and save it with a different filename. This used to >>>> be possible, but the only option I see now for saving documents is >>>> Save a Version, which uses the original filename. Does > anyone know if there's some way to open a Save As dialog in Text Edit? >>>> >>>> On a related note, does anyone know if there's a way to view older >>>> versions of a file, i.e. could I open a version of this file before the last time I saved a version? >>>> TIA, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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