well, in this case, I disagree. the tool is only useful if one can use it. Firefox is a fine browser (works well with ORCA in linux) but the folks at mozilla Inc. didn't want to support more than one version. I came up with a solution that involves having a few custom tags in the configure and compile scripts. all they would have to do is use a --include= argument to include the proper library files for core audio and accessible buttons/pane libs. this way, they can compile 3 versions (OS X, Linux and windows) and not have a completely separate compiler source tree. now, I am not a programmer, but I do have experience with troubleshooting program source errors (like missing libs, etc.).
-eric On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > All i can say here is "it's not about the tool, but the man" > > > > > On 8/01/2012, at 7:46 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Fire fox? thats not even accessible with voiceover. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> [email protected] >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Luca wrote: >> >>> I am using a mac since late 2010 and frankly have to say that i am >>> not going to switch to a mac with vo, too many bugs and things that >>> you cannot simply do with vo: advanced word processing, terrible >>> braille support, tinefficient web browsing (many sites simply dont >>> work with vo, and what about that busy bug in firefox? its making me >>> crazy), lots of bugs in non english standard voices, inability to >>> read the status bar in the main menu, and others. >>> Tell me some things that you cant do in windows an can do with vo in >>> mac.. i i cant find any... >>> Mr. L. Alexander ha scritto: >>>> amen. >>>> >>>> I fully agree. >>>> >>>> the trick of IT is getting the balance right. There are things windows can >>>> do that mac does differently and things that windows can't offer directly >>>> that mac does. each screen reader offers different levels of support and >>>> interoperability between OS and applications. >>>> >>>> For me, I've worked between windows, Mac OSS both old and X versions and >>>> linux. each OS and screen reader can offer different functionality. each >>>> has their strengths and weaknesses. Though I firmly stick to my mac and >>>> voiceover, I still have to work on occasions with windows. now more than >>>> ever with the use of adaptive hardware for system repairs and testing. >>>> >>>> so it's back to either jaws or window eyes or something like that to do >>>> what I need to do on a windows notebook. >>>> >>>> lol >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 15:29, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think its great that we can talk about our choices without getting hung >>>>> about who uses what. May this list continue in this spirit as in the >>>>> past we have weathered a number of conflicts. May be the list is >>>>> maturing which is very good to see. >>>>> >>>>> Kawal. >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 02:00 PM, Garth Humphreys <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I also use Zoomtext on my work PC. I have had my MBA for the past few >>>>>> months. In a lot of ways I love the machine however I also have had some >>>>>> issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly, how much zoom do you use? I will regularly jump up to around 30 >>>>>> times depending upon what I am doing. The max zoom on the Mac currently >>>>>> is 20 times. Add to this the minimal colour options. Normal or reverse >>>>>> video, no brightness inversion or other more advance colour management >>>>>> in the zoom option. I should say that there is also contrast control. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also come across an extremely annoying bug when using VO with >>>>>> Zoom. You can't navigate the menu bar properly with the keyboard. It can >>>>>> be done with the track pad or by turning down the zoom level though. >>>>>> There are also a couple of keyboard shortcut conflicts between zoom and >>>>>> VO. . >>>>>> >>>>>> I have basically given up on using the Zoom component on the Mac. I will >>>>>> qualify this a bit as not to mislead. I didn't plan on using zoom that >>>>>> much and so bought an 11inch rather than the 13inch MBA. However I did >>>>>> get a connector to hook it up to my 32 inch TV and have probably only >>>>>> done this once or twice. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can tell by the fact that I often use the zoom at 30 times that my >>>>>> vision is on the low side of usable :) I am using JAWS with Zoomtext on >>>>>> the PC. I also have MAGic but prefer Zoomtext. I haven't had the >>>>>> stability issues you describe with Zoomtext. >>>>>> >>>>>> The thing I most love about my mac is the physical hardware it's self. I >>>>>> would often prefer to browse the web on my iPad. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with your choice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Garth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/01/2012, at 10:05 AM, Chuck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC. >>>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs. >>>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my >>>>>>> magnification and reading software. >>>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch. >>>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs? >>>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system? >>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. 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