Hello Simon, that workes, thanks. The only issue: VO doesn't anounce the character when using the arrow keys. Is that the issue in the latest version you meant? Could you send me the version you work with? [email protected] Because actually it seems to be a great program. Navigating is much faster then in Numbers. And there are features I miss in Numbers such as CMD + arrow keys and Option + arrow keys to reach specific parts of a sheet.
Thanks and all the best Jürgen Am 24.02.2012 um 07:34 schrieb Simon Cavendish: > When focused on the cell you wish to change data in, press F2 key which will > put you in the editing mode. Then you should be able to use your cursor keys. > Once done, press tab. In the previous version of Tables, this worked very > well. The latest update has rendered this important function more difficult. > I noticed it as soon as I had installed the latest version. I reported it to > the developer but had no answer from him. I only hope that he is going to > improve it. In the past, he was rather sympathetic to Voiceover users. I was > disappointed with this negative change as Tables worked for me far better > than Numbers. > > Sorry I have no better news. > On 23 Feb 2012, at 06:47, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > >> No Rafael, that's not what I asked for. I know how to enter data. But I want >> to change existing data in the cells. >> Imagine you have an address of a friend in a cell. His telephone number >> changes and you want to change just the number. How to do this in Tables? >> I don't see this important possibility accessible with VoiceOver. >> Again: how to change specific data in a cell? >> Not entering data in an empty cell. That's easy. >> Hopefully my question is clearer now. >> Jürgen >> Am 22.02.2012 um 16:26 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >> >>> Tables has a data entry field. That is where data are entered into each >>> cell. If you cannot find the data entry field on your own, you may benefit >>> from sighted help to find it the first time. Place your cursor in the >>> field, making sure VO is not locked. You can then type or paste in data >>> and formulae. If you type in the data entry field, press the return >>> (enter) key to get the data into the cell. The arrow keys are used to move >>> between cells. >>> >>> Rafael >>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Rafael, >>>> >>>> thanks for your hints. So far Tables works fine. >>>> >>>> But what I meant was how to edit a cell and change inserted content. That >>>> doesn't work here for me. >>>> >>>> As far as I could find out I have to enter the edit mode of a chosen cell >>>> by pressing F2. VO anounces "edit". But then it's not possible to read or >>>> delete single characters or to navigate through the content of a cell just >>>> by using the arrow keys. Of course I can navigate by using VO + arrow keys >>>> but. I should say that I use a sheet like a two dimensional notepad. I >>>> don't use it as a calculator and so I don't need formulas in a cell. But >>>> to take notes and so I enter a lot of text in it. So it's quite important >>>> for me to delete parts of the text and enter new content. >>>> >>>> So: How do you delete parts of text in a cell and how to enter just one >>>> word in a text of a cell? Deleting a whole cell is easily possible. >>>> >>>> Thanks and all the best >>>> Jürgen >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 22.02.2012 um 05:45 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>>> >>>>> If you are using an Intel-based Mac, then the first thing to do when you >>>>> open the Tables application is to get the cursor out of the table. Press >>>>> Shift, Control, Option, up-arrow together, in order to get out of the >>>>> table where the cursor is pointing. Press this key combination again to >>>>> get out of the spreadsheet. Do these things first, or the following >>>>> instructions won't make sense. >>>>> >>>>> Basically, there are two ways to read a cell's contents in Tables. The >>>>> first way is to place the cursor over the field in which one enters >>>>> numbers, formulae, and so on. If you choose this option, make sure VO is >>>>> not locked, so that you can use the arrow keys to move from cell to cell >>>>> (i.e., left arrow to move to the left, bottom arrow to move down, etc.). >>>>> This is a simple option that allows you to navigate from cell to cell, to >>>>> read each cell's contents, and to enter data into individual cells, all >>>>> from the data-entry field. >>>>> >>>>> The second way to move around in Tables is somewhat more complicated. To >>>>> make things easier, first lock VO (by pressing control-option-semicolon). >>>>> Next, enter the spreadsheet, by pressing shift and the down-arrow key >>>>> together. At this level, you will be able to move the VO cursor with the >>>>> arrow keys and read the letters designating the columns (i.e., Column A, >>>>> Column B, etc.), as well as the row numbers (i.e., Row 1, Row 2, etc.). >>>>> To access the individual cells, navigate to the table (VO says "table >>>>> when you've found it). With VO still locked, press the shift and >>>>> down-arrow keys together again. That will put you in the table of cells, >>>>> from which point onward you can just use the arrow keys to navigate from >>>>> cell to cell. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll >>>>> do my best to try to answer them. >>>>> >>>>> Cordially, >>>>> Rafael >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] >>>>> On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger [[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:52 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: numbers >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>> >>>>> I tried Tables and it's much faster to work with then with Numbers. But >>>>> what I didn't understand was how to read text in a cell. I pressed F2 to >>>>> edit the cell and couldn't have VO to read text by pressing arrow keys. >>>>> Did I something wrong or does Tables not support VO that much? >>>>> >>>>> All the best Jürgen >>>>> Am 20.02.2012 um 18:24 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>>>> >>>>>> If your spreadsheet needs are not very complicated, you might wish to >>>>>> consider Tables. It's the spreadsheet app that I use on the Mac, and I >>>>>> really like it. It has all the usual functions, and you can enter your >>>>>> own formulae, as well. You can save your work as xl files, too. >>>>>> Creating graphs is somewhat limited, however. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafael Bejarano >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:16 AM, May McDonald wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good day everyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I guess I can't avoid it any longer. Drn school stuff. Is there a >>>>>> place where I could find tutorials on how to use numbers? 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