Now, if we can only solve the read by thread issue.  That's the one plegueing 
me at the moment.  Can't use the right arrow key to expand a thread so I have 
to use control+tab.  The only way to resolve this is to restart my machine.  
Pressing enter on a calapsed thread usually crashes my mail.

PS.  Damn, can't type today.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Whoever posted that having the preview pane open was what was causing the 
> read status not to be spoken was absolutely correct.  This explains why I 
> didn't start seeing this till Saturday, I had had the preview pane turned 
> off, and somehow managed to get it visible again.
> 
> Anyway, follow Ricardo's instructions below to disable preview pane, and you 
> will hear the read status spoken.  One note: make sure you perform the mouse 
> click from the track pad.  If you try and do it from the keyboard it won't 
> work.
> 
> Glad we've got at least one mail issue solved. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> lol,
>> 
>> Its not that bad.  There is a vertical splitter that separates the messages 
>> column group which contains the messages table and the message content area 
>> which is the preview pane.  Just make sure your mouse cursor is focused on 
>> this vertical splitter and double click with your trackpad or mouse.  If 
>> using a trackpad, make sure VO's trackpad commander is off.  
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> [email protected]
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> Do you remember how to do this?  I remember doing it when I first got my 
>>> Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a circle 
>>> around a bonfire under the full moon, etc.  lol  It took me forever to 
>>> actually do it.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the 
>>>> message to view it in a different window.  This will then mark the message 
>>>> as read.  Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail
>>>>> is to use mutt on my Linux box.  That's hardly the right answer for a
>>>>> Mac users list though.  When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint
>>>>> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem
>>>>> with VO not reading the read/unread status.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO
>>>>> however.  Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The
>>>>> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the
>>>>> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO
>>>>> to speak once it is read.  I forgot how to keep the message from being
>>>>> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation
>>>>> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off
>>>>> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this
>>>>> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened.  All I need now would
>>>>> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the
>>>>> VO cursor is.  We have a command to go the other way but not this way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil
>>>>> one of those "new guys."
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>>>>> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent.  I don't have the 
>>>>>> issue Kawal mentions.  And,  I didn't have the problem with VO not 
>>>>>> reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I 
>>>>>> didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello All.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever 
>>>>>>>> you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail 
>>>>>>>> address before the message.  I prefer the old way where it just read 
>>>>>>>> the message.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kawal.
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