I'm on Lion 10.7.3 and started out with 10.7.2 before that for a brief period. I never had any problems with threaded messages I us this approach with all mailers I work with on all platforms. My only complaint right now with Mail is the message getting marked read when you highlight it on the message list. I like being able to hop back and forth with VO-J but that comes with the baggage of marking the message as read by merely selecting. I guess I can't have both ways at the same time <sigh>. Everything else seems to be OK from what I've dealt with so far.
On 2/28/12, Kimberly thurman <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, I use threaded messages all the time and this did not work right at > all under Lion. It would appear messages were from the wrong person all the > time. Ugh! > On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Now, if we can only solve the read by thread issue. That's the one >> plegueing me at the moment. Can't use the right arrow key to expand a >> thread so I have to use control+tab. The only way to resolve this is to >> restart my machine. Pressing enter on a calapsed thread usually crashes >> my mail. >> >> PS. Damn, can't type today. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Whoever posted that having the preview pane open was what was causing the >>> read status not to be spoken was absolutely correct. This explains why I >>> didn't start seeing this till Saturday, I had had the preview pane turned >>> off, and somehow managed to get it visible again. >>> >>> Anyway, follow Ricardo's instructions below to disable preview pane, and >>> you will hear the read status spoken. One note: make sure you perform >>> the mouse click from the track pad. If you try and do it from the >>> keyboard it won't work. >>> >>> Glad we've got at least one mail issue solved. :) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> lol, >>>> >>>> Its not that bad. There is a vertical splitter that separates the >>>> messages column group which contains the messages table and the message >>>> content area which is the preview pane. Just make sure your mouse >>>> cursor is focused on this vertical splitter and double click with your >>>> trackpad or mouse. If using a trackpad, make sure VO's trackpad >>>> commander is off. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> [email protected] >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, "Goodin, Donna" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ricardo, >>>>> >>>>> Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got >>>>> my Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a >>>>> circle around a bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me >>>>> forever to actually do it. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> you can just close the preview pain so you need to press enter on the >>>>>> message to view it in a different window. This will then mark the >>>>>> message as read. Are more accurately, unmark the message as unread. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail >>>>>>> is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a >>>>>>> Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint >>>>>>> I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem >>>>>>> with VO not reading the read/unread status. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO >>>>>>> however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The >>>>>>> adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the >>>>>>> status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO >>>>>>> to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from >>>>>>> being >>>>>>> opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation >>>>>>> and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off >>>>>>> and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this >>>>>>> way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the >>>>>>> VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil >>>>>>> one of those "new guys." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: >>>>>>>> It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have >>>>>>>> the issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO >>>>>>>> not reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, >>>>>>>> why I didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Funny, I have not noticed this myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello All. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when >>>>>>>>>> ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's >>>>>>>>>> e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it >>>>>>>>>> just read the message. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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