I agree this is being argued to death. OK I admit to some errors in posts, etc either through rushing through work, etc or having "Blonde days" and we're ALL guilty of it. It does however concern me that when reading a message with voiceover, a message with countless errors causes voiceover as you all know to miss pronounce a word or words thereby making them misunderstood. Some users may be communicating through a desktop or notebook and others through touch screen interfaces like the iphone and ipad, therefore it's rather easy to make errors through touch screen inaccuracies.
Please do take all these points into consideration but at the same time, consider what the target audience is listening to or reading so that it can be understood. The english language is often taken for granted, bearing in mind that there are many users on this forum who are not english speakers as a first language. So from that position, let's treat each other with respect and an intellectual stand point. on a more amusing note, think of it this way, new words are invented every day, some which voiceover can pronounce, others it can't. like the welsh language. Voiceover can't even understand it let alone pronounce correctly as voiceover does not include a welsh dictionary component nor language set. I myself am not welsh but have come across pages where voiceover becomes garbled. in summary, let us all try at least to make our subjects and replies legible to the average reader as well as screen readers. with many thanks, the constantly puzzled lew. On 2 Mar 2012, at 10:49, Scott Howell wrote: > Not to beat the topic to death, but knowing I'm not an English major and not > great at spelling, I make every effort to send messages that sound as though > I took the time to prepare them. Of course some of this comes from my > professional world where we are expected to prepare messages that reflect > thorough research etc. Even though we may begin to speak our messages etc. we > should still take time to review them for accuracy and to ensure the message > is clear. Oddly enough I have seen an increase in professional websites with > spelling and grammatical errors and I'm not sure why this is. I for one > really like the fact that I am alerted to the spelling errors I make or those > errors where I have swapped letters. > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote: > >> I think part of the problem is these silly smartphones without physical >> keyboards. That's what I was using today when I hit the letter y instead of >> the letter t. Android doesn't even have the decency to tell you that you've >> misspelled a word. On top of that, going back to edit is like looking for a >> needle in a haystack. It's why I promptly corrected myself when Ricardo >> asked me to repeat what I'd written. I don't know if IOS handles this any >> better, as my IPad is in the shop, but I'd venture a bet it does. Another >> problem is speech to text, which I've heard a lot of visually impaired users >> saying they like to use. Even if using Zoom only in Mac OS, you get a nice >> red line if you type something misspelled. So, I don't know, on my part, I >> don't judge too critically when I see typing errors. Your milage may very. >> >> On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Can we return to her original request? I agree. to speak frankly, not >>> only is it that some people do not bother to spell check; but also, that >>> they are thinking way ahead of what they're typing. As a result, they >>> don't pay attention to the letters they are pressing on the keyboard. That >>> makes for just plain sloppy writing, and, sometimes, you can't even read >>> the message because the typing itself is inexcusably bad. Lucky this isn't >>> one of those English grammar lists where one single space or letter or >>> punctuation mark out of place and the moderator throws you off the list. >>> I've never been on or read from such a list; but, I'm told they do exist. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Wes Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Whoa! >>>> You. ARe. SMART!!!! >>>> I'm not sure I could do that!! :)On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Emrah wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was born in French speaking Switzerland, so French is my mother tongue. >>>>> My parents are Kurdish and immigrated from Turkey. >>>>> I was taught German at school. >>>>> My job is in English. >>>>> >>>>> The bottom line is that I can manage Turkish, one dialect of Kurdish, >>>>> French and English. I am not fluent in German. >>>>> >>>>> I am a citizen of the world with my heart anchored in the USA. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Wes Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What other languages do you know? What is your first? Just wondering. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Emrah wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For some reason, ever since I upgraded to Lion, VO announces me >>>>>>> misspelled words when I read emails, not just when composing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess it's ok not to always start with some sort of a polite >>>>>>> greeting... I don't always do it when replying to messages. However, I >>>>>>> think we should dedicate a bit more attention to our spelling. Some >>>>>>> emails on the list are really creepy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please make a little effort to improve your spelling please. I am not >>>>>>> talking about people with English difficulties. I am referring to >>>>>>> people that sound like native American / English and do not review >>>>>>> their emails before sending. English is my 4th language and I do try to >>>>>>> sound coherent and use the right punctuation. It looks and plays nicer >>>>>>> when using a text to speech! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! 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