Eric,

I don't know you or your financial situation beyond what you have said. 
However, I do understand how it can be difficult to "make ends" meet and how 
hard it is to save up and purchase something you want, but it is possible. 
There is no reason for APple to offer any product at a reduced price because of 
your disability. APple is a great company that has done amazing things, but 
APple is not a charity. Yes APple has lots of cash and the reason why APple has 
been successful is by using their money wisely and other companies should maybe 
take a page from APple's playbook and they could be in a good financial place.
I mean no offense Eric, but I get a little worked up when I read messages 
making statements such as those you made. Blind people like any other group of 
individuals with a disability need opportunity not charity, A hand up not a 
hand out, and no matter if you have a "disability" or not it is up to you to 
determine your financial priorities so that you can purchase the things you 
want. Note that you does not refer to you as Eric. :)


On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> I really wish there was a financing program for the blind when it comes to 
> mac hardware (laptops, desktops, iPad, iPhone). given that I (and a great 
> many others) am living on a disability income (more than 85% of the blind in 
> the US are), I find it nearly impossible to save up for any equipment. Hell, 
> I had to make my own Hackintosh and load it with a store purchased copy of 
> snow leopard. It cost me $30 for the OS and about $400 to assemble the 
> machine. at minimum, I would have to spend nearly twice that much for a 
> comparably equipped mac mini and almost $1500 or more for a reasonably 
> powerful macbook pro/air. given that I have to spend my money on medications, 
> rent and food, there is no way I can even save up for one at all. 
> 
> there used to be a "free macs for the blind" charity in Great Britain, but 
> the person running that organization was forced to give it up as there were 
> too many problems involved. We need something like that here in North 
> America, but I just don't see that happening. I tried to query Apple about 
> doing something like this and was given the polite brush off (thats nice kid, 
> here is a soda. now go over in the corner.). hell, they have $115 Billion in 
> CASH laying around they are not using. they could earn themselves a lot of 
> good publicity if they offered some macs to the blind at a vastly discounted 
> rate. it would also give them an in to a market they don't currently have. 
> 
> anyway, time for me to climb down off the soapbox.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
>> one thing that I can note that is not seeming to be mentioned is the fact 
>> that there ar certain Apps which are not available on iPhone / iPod Touch, 
>> yet, that are found on the iPad.
>> 
>> The iPad from my prespective is purely for consumption, and I use it for 
>> news papers, which 4 of which are not found on the iPhone, and 5 are on the 
>> iPhone, but, only as reduced versions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
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>> On 24 Mar 2012, at 08:43, David Hole wrote:
>> 
>>> hi folks.
>>> I just wonder, and many here have asked, so I thought I'd ask you in
>>> this group.
>>> What's the benefit for blind people to have an iPad instead of an
>>> iPhone?
>>> I mean, as far as I can see, the difference is only the screen size...
>>> Am I right?
>>> Actually I'd like to have one myself, but I can't find any good
>>> reasons to have it, since I have both an iPhone and a Mac.
>>> Hope someone here can give me reasons to get one :p
>>> Best regards David
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