I agree with you totally. It was a challenge when I switched too, but lists like Mac visionaries helped a lot.
Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > THe greatest challenge in my opinion for someone who has used WIndows and a > WIndows-based screen reader such as WIndow-EYes or JAWS is the effort in > unlearning everything you previously learned. > Like it or not and I'm not interested in creating a flamewar here, but > reality is how you interact with windows and using a windows screen reader is > simply different on so many levels as compared to a Mac. > Everyone will have a learning curve that is unique to their individual level > of experience, learning abilities, and so forth. If you truly are interested > in making the switch you will have to dedicate yourself to the effort and > understand that you do have to put aside the windows machine and submerse > yourself in the Mac experience. Lots of people are sliders and I had to learn > to be a slider since I use a Mac at work, but also have to use WIndows. So, > it is quite possible, but you do have to make the decision and ask yourself > why you want to switch to a Mac and accept that there will be challenges > along the way. > Most folks I know who have switched from windows (even sighted) do not regret > the switch. I did not give my wife a choice, I had all I could stand trying > to keep a windows machine up for her and my kid. I eventually forced them > over to TIger and neither suffered as a result and actually took to the Mac > OS just fine. :) > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > >> HI there, >> >> I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. >> >> I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the >> trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you >> encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. >> >> I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case with >> jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use >> >> I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages >> contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, >> especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. I >> also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less reliable >> I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from >> time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do not >> affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the >> variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It >> might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe >> this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. >> But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best >> of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to >> install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I have >> not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. >> >> >> Hope this helps a bit. >> >> Ioana >> >> >> >> >> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >> stores. >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: >> >>> Hello there, >>> >>> It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is >>> browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a >>> regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use >>> with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through >>> with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, >>> safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is >>> there any program for the Mac that is similar? >>> >>> I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! >>> >>> -Marc >>> >>> >>> On 3/29/12, Gigi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Mark >>>> I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem >>>> for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I >>>> have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were not >>>> an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that choice >>>> of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer when >>>> I >>>> absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. >>>> Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I >>>> haven't >>>> had much trouble with that. >>>> Regards Gigi >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post >>>>> to MacVisionaries... be gentle. >>>>> >>>>> In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing >>>>> an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm >>>>> thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan >>>>> on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an >>>>> Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least >>>>> entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the >>>>> assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five >>>>> years for those with accessibility needs. >>>>> >>>>> They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up >>>>> this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. >>>>> >>>>> With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask >>>>> on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. >>>>> They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. >>>>> On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would >>>>> probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer >>>>> because of other questions. >>>>> >>>>> So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for >>>>> such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all >>>>> the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning >>>>> about the wonderful world of Mac! :) >>>>> >>>>> -Marc >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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