OK, I have all cursors tracking. That is, keyboard focus follows Voiceover, VO cursor follows keyboard focus, insertion point follows VO, mouse pointer follows VO.
Oh wait. I just did something dumb. Never mind. I should maybe actually do this with Lion. LOL -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn <[email protected]> wrote: > I just tried this and was unable to reproduce on my MacBook. Did you > interact did you simulate a single click as I implied from your message? > Please provide step by step including what your tracking settings in Voice > Over settings are... > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > Jonathan C. Cohn > [email protected] > > > > On Apr 15, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> If you're in the new mail view, and not classic, it's the vertical splitter >> that hides the preview pane. And, indeed, you can double click with >> VO+shift+space to move it. I just did, both to open and to close the preview >> pane. >> >> I can't say how this works with classic view though, sorry. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> Double-clicking on the horizontal splitter with VO-Shift-Space (e.g., by >>> holding down the Control, Option, and Shift keys while double tapping the >>> space bar) used to work in Leopard to hide the Preview pane. I think this >>> ability went away in Snow Leopard. There are definitely other examples of >>> instances where you need a "hardware" key click to work. I think that you >>> may be able to press the "5" key on the numeric keypad with NumPad >>> Commander to click, as well, but since I use a laptop I'd have to attach a >>> USB numeric keypad to try this. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> I do find that moving through messages is more responsive with the preview >>>> pane turned off. Interesting that the voiceover click mouse command >>>> doesn't work here, but it definitely does not. >>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Anne, >>>>> >>>>> Just as an added comment, in situations like this one, where I want to >>>>> make sure that the mouse pointer doesn't move when I double click, and a >>>>> physical click with trackpad or mouse is required, I use mouse keys >>>>> instead to perform the click. After routing my mouse cursor to the >>>>> VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5, I quickly press the option key 5 >>>>> times to turn on mouse keys, then I double tap the "i" key instead of >>>>> performing a double click with mouse or trackpad, and turn mouse keys off >>>>> again by quickly pressing the option key 5 times. As you know, this >>>>> requires having the box in the System Preferences > Universal Access > >>>>> Mouse & Trackpad tab checked for "Press the Option key five times to turn >>>>> Mouse Keys on or off". This will work whether or not Trackpad Commander >>>>> is turned off. Also, you can additionally check the option for "Ignore >>>>> built-in trackpad when Mouse Keys is on" if you press (with VO-Space) the >>>>> button for "Trackpad Options…" on the Mouse & Trackpad tab of the >>>>> Universal Access menu of System Preferences in Lion. >>>>> >>>>> This is for cases where people have difficulty with clicking the mouse or >>>>> trackpad without moving the pointer, but it's useful in general to know. >>>>> It's most useful when using applications which are transitioning in >>>>> accessibility, where neither VO-Space or VO-Shift-Space will work to >>>>> click on controls, and you need to perform physical clicks. Turning >>>>> mouse keys on and clicking with the "i" key always works as an >>>>> alternative in these instances. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Franc, >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, you need to be in classic view to do this. You also need >>>>>> to have the Trackpad Commander turned off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Go to the horizontal splitter above the body of the message using the VO >>>>>> keys, then bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and double click using either the >>>>>> trackpad or the mouse, depending on what kind of computer you have. If >>>>>> you move the mouse pointer even slightly before the double click, it >>>>>> won't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 15 Apr 2012, at 16:10, Frank Ventura wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, I am using a Mac with the latest of Lion. Can anyone tell me >>>>>>> how to disable the preview pane in Mac mail. I had some old directions >>>>>>> for, I think, Leopard but they don't seem to work. >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Frank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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