Hi Kirsten, If you are interacting with the messages table, then make sure you use VO-Fn-Shift-Left and Right arrow on a laptop to move to the start or end of the list. Even if you have Quick Nav turned on, so you can use your right and left arrow keys to navigate without simultaneously pressing the VO keys (Control and Option), you still need to press these keys as part of the shortcut definition for moving to the top or bottom of a list. If you want a simpler combination to use as a keyboard shortcut, you can use Keyboard Commander in VoiceOver Utility to set up a definition. Or you can custom define a gesture for moving to the top or bottom of a list if you use TrackPad Commander for most of your navigation.
When you navigate to the "Mesages Column" in mail you interact twice: first when you reach this column, then there will be two items. You'll probably hear "Sort by date" after you interact. Navigate (with VO-Right arrow or Right arrow with Quick Nav on, or by flicking right on the track pad with TrackPad Commander on) to "Messages" and interact again. Then try VO-Fn-Shift left arrow or right arrow to move to the top or bottom of the list. This command also works for columns or lists in Finder. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: > er, I am interacting as far as I can see. I'll keep trying ... > :) > On 16 Apr 2012, at 21:26, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Kirsten, >> >> This is a case where you have to first interact with the mail messages table >> for the commands to take effect. They are specific to a table environment. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: >> >>> Hi Esther, >>> Despite when I use function and the arrowes or function plus shift and the >>> arrowes it won't move anywhere. I have an MBP running Lion OSX. When I try >>> them in mail or in pages, they don't work. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? >>> Do I have mail set to the wrong view? I'm in the messages table and I arrow >>> across from status to conversation then from then subject then date, if >>> that makes sense. >>> Thanks. >>> Kirsten. >>> >>> On 16 Apr 2012, at 03:20, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Frank, >>>> >>>> If you're using a laptop keyboard or Apple Wireless keyboard you have to >>>> add "Shift" to those combinations, so it's VO-Fn-Shift-Left arrow to go to >>>> the top of the list and VO-Fn-Shift-Right arrow to move to bottom of the >>>> list. Without the shift keys you're moving to the top and bottom of the >>>> visible list. >>>> >>>> On a full-size keyboard, these sequences are VO-Shift-Home to move to the >>>> start of the list and VO-Shift-End to move to the end of the list, where >>>> "Home" is Fn+Left arrow and "End" is Fn+Right arrow on a laptop keyboard. >>>> Similarly, VO-Home and VO-End move you to the first and last visible >>>> elements of a list. >>>> >>>> The quick way to verify this is to turn on keyboard help with VO-k, then >>>> type these sequences to learn their functions, then press escape to exit >>>> keyboard help mode. >>>> >>>> I do miss the feature that worked up through Snow Leopard where you could >>>> simply press the Option key along with up (or down) arrow, and just wait a >>>> bit to be taken to the first or last item in the message list. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, when in a message list in mail sometimes I want to jump to the >>>>> top or bottom of the list. If I use FN VO Left Arrow it moves up by 25 >>>>> rows. If I use FN VO Right Arrow it moves down by 25 rows. Is there a >>>>> means of jumping through the entire list? For example if I have 65 items >>>>> in a folder and at row 2 how can I jump to row 65? >>>>> thanks >>>>> Frank >>>>> >>>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
