My personal preference would be to use the Reminders app for appointments. Teresa
On Aug 14, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > You have to switch to day view to see a list. Personally I think a list view > should be added to the toolbar. > > I wrote to Apple expressing my disappointment with Calendar and felt it > should be more intuitive, be more iOS like and require less interacting. > > This is my observation of the app as you explore, starting with the toolbar: > > There is the toolbar which you can interact with. I think another view should > be added to the calendar view switcher. I think there should be a "List > View". This would make the calendar behave more like iOS. I also think the > Today button should be moved to the toolbar as well as a button for > invitations and for adding a new calendar. > > After you stop interacting with the toolbar, there is the vertical splitter > (why do we need to care about this? I would rather not hear VO announce this. > I can appreciate it is there for when you bring the list of calendar types > into view. Perhaps calendar view should actually be moved to the view menu > at the top of the window. There could be an entry called Calendars, with a > sub menu which you can then place a tick against the calendar or calendars > you which to be be visible such as all calendars, home, work, birthdays etc. > ) After the vertical splitter, VO says "Friday, 10 August 2012, year, > Calendar area" (this is the date of myself writing this message, and I had > the year view selected) ). I think it would sound better if VO rad all this > out as "Today is the 10th of August 2012, Year view is selected". > > Next, as long as you do not interact with the calendar area, there is a > horizontal splitter, yet again, why does VO even need to know this? > > I have my calendar currently set to year view, so let's interact with it and > explore that. > > The first item is the previous year button, and the next item is the today > button, should this not say what the current year is? for example 2012? No > matter which view I use, the today button is always read out which is not > relevant when in month or year or week view, this should behave more like > iOS. . The next element is next year button. > > Next is The 2012 (or whichever year you have selected). VO tells you this is > a grid and tells you how many rows and columns there are. Is this relevant? > and why do we even need to interact with this grid? Should it not be visible > by default? This is one of my biggest complains about the calendar app, > there are too many levels to interact with. Can you imagine how popular > google search would be if you had to follow 6 hyperlinks before you finally > got to the search box? > > After interacting, I am told by VO that I am on August, and that is the 8 of > 12 and lists the number of columns and rows within that month. Again, is > this relevant? do we really need to know how many rows and columns can be > found inside August? and do I need to be told it is month 8 of 12? > > Next we have to interact with August to see each of the days. Now this bit I > think Apple got right, as you don't want to have to listen to every entry for > every month, it is nice being able to skip over months and simply only > interacting with the month you require. > > Ok, so I have now interacted with the month of August and I am still in year > view. and I move to 14, and VO tells me this is a Tuesday (great as we never > got this in the past) but it also tells me I am on 16 of 42. Why is the 16 > of 42 relevant? . I have an event on the 14th August, but VO has not > announced anything about this when I move my VO cursor over the 14th (I am > using the VO keys plus arrows left and right to move the VO cursor). I > would like VO to say at least 1 event listed, press VO plus space to view the > event. When I do press VO + space (even though there was no hint to do so) I > finally hear a pop up which displays my event, and then I hit escape to make > it go away. There is no option within the pop up to then list the event in > full or be able to edit the event, these options would be useful. > > Ok that is the year view, let's look at month view. > > the first element is previous month and the next month is today (which should > say the current month, in my case is August), then we have the next month > button.. Next follows "August 2012 grid, 5 rows 7 columns" again, why do I > need to know the number of rows and columns? and why do I have to interact > with the grid? it should be visible by default. . After interacting, I land > on 30 July which is a Monday. and voiceover announces "1 event list", maybe > it would be better if VO said "1 event" to be consistent with iOS. This is > good though, as in month view you are informed you have an event listed when > you move the VO cursor over the day, as I mentioned earlier VO does not > announce this when in Year view. The next thing VO tells me after announcing > the event, that I am on 1 of 35. Yet again, do I really need to know I am on > 1 of 35? > > I am now going to explore the week view. As usual we have the previous > button and in this case it is the previous week button. There is then the > today button, I would rather this was text that said the date of the week I > am looking at and the week number in the year would b a nice touch too. > There is the next week button after that. The next item confuses me some > what, as it is called the dates group and when you interact with it you can > do very little apart from hear day headers. Seems absolutely useless, so I > think VO should not even see this. The next item is the week grid which you > can interact with and see each of the days for that week. You then have to > interact yet again to see the contents of each of the days to establish if > any of them are holding events. Get rid of the dates group, and make it so > the week grid is interacted with by default. and then when you interact with > each of the days it will not seem so bad. We also yet again do not need to > know about row and colin numbers etc. > > Let's now look at day view. We have the usual previous day button, then the > today button (should this not actually say what the actual day selected is? > So in my case, it should say "30 July 2012". Then we have the next day > button. Next I then hear "all day events, empty scroll area", this is > another thing I can interact with and then is the current day I have listed, > this seems to be in the wrong place for me and should have been on the today > button. Then you finally get to the list of events. Would it not be much > simpler to have the list of events for that day only (including all day > events)? When in an all day event mode, I would like to be able to move my > cursor between the different hours of the day to see what is where and when, > in the same way this can be achieved in iOS when looking at day view or using > other calendar apps such as Outlook for example. > > My final complaint is a bug I have found when creating a new event. First of > all when creating a new event, it seems like we are forced into creating a > quick event, but what if you want to be more detailed? When you are finally > able to interact with the inspector, I have noticed a focus issue bug when > selecting the time of the reminder. If I change it from the default of 30 > minutes to something else, my VO cursor is thrown up to the location field. > I then have to work my way down again and then if I say select the type of > alert I would like, either a message and or sound etc, I am then thrown back > up to the location field, I then make my way back down to select the sound I > would like to hear when I am notified of the reminder, after selecting I am > thrown back up to the top. This is an ongoing loop every time I try to > change one of the settings within the inspector. > > Chris > > On 14 Aug 2012, at 13:42, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have a question about the list of appointments possible in Calendar. On >> IOS devices, you can see a full list view of all appointments, past and >> present in a single view. I was thinking since Mountain Lion's approach in >> many apps is more closely similar to their IOS counterparts,, that list >> could be shown on the Mac as well. Alas, I haven't been able to do that. >> Is a single list of all events even possible on the Mac? I can get a list >> within a specific period of time like week or month view but I would like to >> see the list like I can on my iPod. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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