Well, I'm going to look into what it would take to get osx to use it. Even if I'm the only one that will actually use the voice, it'll be worth it. Come here, SpeechSynthesis.h header file...
On 8/24/12, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course if all you get is a terminal command to say text then you > might as well use the OSX voiceover one and just do > > say abcdefg > > CB > > On 8/24/12 12:54 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >> They have actually ported ESpeak, but I don't think they got it where >> it works with Voiceover. I think it only seems to work with it's own >> little utility that you run through Terminal. Even with that though, >> I never seemed to b able to make it work. Not even in Terminal, that >> suits me fine though as and ok, no one shoot me, here, K? This only is >> an opinion, take it or leave it, but don't slauder me! I can't stand! >> ESpeak. I listen to it for less than 2 minutes and walk away with a >> head ache. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: voices for the mack? >> >> >> Well Espeak is free and open source so why not port the code to the mac? >> Perhaps lack of interest is one reason. >> >> >> Sent from my Windows laptop. >> >> On 24/08/2012 15:49, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Yes, the quality of the pitch change is really bad, making Serena >>> sound either like a female voice through a tape player with low >>> batteries or one set on high speed (though the speed remains constant, >>> it's just the pitch that goes crazy). My fondest wish for the mac is >>> still eSpeak, but I suppose it'd be impossible to make a voice for the >>> mac... or would it? Hmm, research to keep me busy this weekend... >>> >>> On 8/24/12, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :) >>>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch >>>>> to be >>>>> adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact >>>>> versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, >>>>> at least >>>>> in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine >>>>> Grassman >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: voices for the mack? >>>>> >>>>> You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about >>>>> Lee is >>>>> that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or >>>>> intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this >>>>> is? >>>>> Christine >>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free. >>>>>> Go into VO utility and choose the "voice" row of the table there. >>>>>> Look >>>>>> around in there. YOu may need to choose "customise" >>>>> to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You >>>>> need to >>>>> download her but she is worth the megabytes. No >>>>> charge though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lisette >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>> i wanted to know if there were any australian voices for the >>>>>>> mack that >>>>>>> one could purchase? >>>>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>>>> sincerely, chenelle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today's Topic Summary >>>>>>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • dumb mail question [2 Updates] >>>>>>>> • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates] >>>>>>>> • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates] >>>>>>>> • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update] >>>>>>>> • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates] >>>>>>>> • 1password accessibility [1 Update] >>>>>>>> • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update] >>>>>>>> • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update] >>>>>>>> • TextEdit question [5 Updates] >>>>>>>> dumb mail question >>>>>>>> Bill Holton <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:52PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to >>>>>>>> consistently open a web URL insight email? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:10PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO >>>>>>>> space. If >>>>>>>> that fails you, do the same but instead of >>>>> pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and >>>>> select to open link or something like that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:15PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, they finally did it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they >>>>>>>> finally give you a progress report. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:18PM -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install >>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for >>>>> yet more work to be done? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:30PM >>>>>>>> -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too >>>>>>>> have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set >>>>>>>> a vm of Windows >>>>>>>> 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I >>>>>>>> heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from >>>>>>>> Fusion, huh. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyways... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Joseph Norton" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:09PM >>>>>>>> +0100 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. >>>>>>>> Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:10PM >>>>>>>> +0100 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night >>>>>>>> before. >>>>>>>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris Blouch <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:19PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:04PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do >>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to >>>>> MS to make the installation of windows accessible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Daniel Miller" <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:08PM -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs >>>>>>>> accessible, since that progress bar is only for installing the >>>>>>>> mac side >>>>>>>> of bootcamp. >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> first time ever that's accessible during install. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo >>>>>>>> Walker >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with >>>>>>>> the bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the >>>>>>>> installation of windows accessible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. >>>>>>>>> Thanks!On >>>>>>>>> 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install >>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work >>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>> done? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, they finally did it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> finally give you a progress report. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Speaking rate in Voiceover >>>>>>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:08PM >>>>>>>> -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, I know about using vo+command+left and right arrow then when on >>>>>>>> rate, I can move it up or down with vo+command+up and down arrows, >>>>>>>> but here's the thing... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's moving in 5% increments. I kind of remember a while back, it's >>>>>>>> been quite a while, but I vaguely remember someone saying that >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> was a little trick to actually adjust that in finer notches, >>>>>>>> where I >>>>>>>> literally could move it just a percentage at a time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can someone refresh my noggin on how to do that? LOL! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:38AM -1000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various >>>>> items such as volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, >>>>> not just >>>>> for adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure >>>>> this works now with the plethora of shortcut key controls and >>>>> QuickNav, >>>>> but somebody else may be able to tell you how to do >>>>> this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being >>>>> able to >>>>> do this, or maybe you can still do this on a full >>>>> size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in older versions of the >>>>> Mac OS >>>>> X operating system. One of the gruesome details of >>>>> inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back instead of the >>>>> F key >>>>> combination you really wanted in Leopard was, that >>>>> not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows >>>>> moving >>>>> for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser >>>>> menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) >>>>> -- but >>>>> if you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, >>>>> this would all happen in slow motion, and it would take even longer to >>>>> recover response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:45PM >>>>>>>> -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ok, but if I hit say a slider on the screen, and interact with it, >>>>>>>> if I then wanna move it up in small movements, you're saying hold >>>>>>>> the shift key down while doing it? Wouldn't that not work? Think >>>>>>>> about that... to move the slider, you'd use vo+up and down arrow >>>>>>>> after interacting. Well, if I wanna move it up a little bit, >>>>>>>> then vo+up >>>>>>>> arrow, with the shift key... so... >>>>>>>> vo+shift+...oops? I just stopped interacting with the slider. >>>>>>>> Bummer! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What 'em I missing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Esther" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:38 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Speaking rate in Voiceover >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as >>>>>>>> volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for >>>>>>>> adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> plethora of shortcut key controls and QuickNav, but somebody else >>>>>>>> may be able to tell you how to do this. It could just be that my >>>>>>>> current setup conflicts with being able to do this, or maybe you >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> still do this on a full size keyboard? It was certainly a >>>>>>>> feature in >>>>>>>> older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One of the >>>>>>>> gruesome >>>>>>>> details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back >>>>>>>> instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was, >>>>>>>> that not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual >>>>>>>> windows moving for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser >>>>>>>> menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of >>>>>>>> windows) -- >>>>>>>> but if you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, this >>>>>>>> would all >>>>>>>> happen in slow motion, and it would take even >>>>> longer to recover response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:07PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sure, this still works. The thing is, instead of pressing VO shift >>>>>>>> up/down, you press VO shift left/right when you are >>>>> interacting with the slider. I do this many times a day to set the >>>>> BPM in >>>>> Garageband projects. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is Facebook Now Completely Broken >>>>>>>> Randy Stegall <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:35PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try using the develop menu in safari. There you will find user >>>>>>>> agent. >>>>>>>> Choose firefox and the fb mobile site should be >>>>> accessible. Hth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Randy Stegall >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> From: Raleigh, NC >>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac Mini >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best GPS app for iPhone >>>>>>>> Harry Hogue <[email protected]> Aug 23 01:49PM -0600 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've heard mention of a couple of different accessible GPS apps >>>>>>>> on this >>>>>>>> list for the iPhone, and I wondered which one >>>>> people prefer to use and find most useful and why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any help. Oh, how much might such an app cost? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, guys. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:46PM +0200 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Harry, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The best GPS app for iPhone is a very subjective matter. It very >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> depends whether you mind having a 3G connection >>>>> while using it or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like Navigon because its maps reside on the phone so it doesn't >>>>>>>> download data. The version I have works all over Europe >>>>> as long as I remember to download the appropriate maps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, I also like Ariadne GPS as an add-on, because it keeps me >>>>>>>> updated as to where I am, and alerts me to the >>>>> favourites I've put in. It does need an internet connection, >>>>> however, so I >>>>> can't use it outside my home country without >>>>> incurring huge charges! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These two apps work together since Navigon happily runs in the >>>>>>>> background. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quite a number of people use these two apps together, but I'm sure >>>>>>>> others will have different suggestions since there are >>>>> several GPS apps that only work in the US. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1password accessibility >>>>>>>> Robert Carter <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:41PM -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> the weak password stored in 1password. Making that >>>>> assumption, here is how I would proceed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to "new item" and >>>>>>>> press >>>>>>>> right arrow to expand it. >>>>>>>> 2. Down arrow to "new password" and press enter to open the >>>>>>>> dialogue. >>>>>>>> 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has >>>>>>>> generated a >>>>>>>> strong password in this dialogue. >>>>>>>> 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy >>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>> to put the password on the clipboard. >>>>>>>> 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. >>>>>>>> I do >>>>>>>> this because 1password only keeps the generated >>>>> password on the clipboard for 90 seconds or whatever you have it >>>>> set to. >>>>>>>> 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it >>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>> clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about >>>>> it disappearing from the clipboard. >>>>>>>> 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the >>>>>>>> password. Get to the point on the site where you are being >>>>> asked for the new password and paste it in from the clipboard. >>>>>>>> 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login >>>>>>>> information for the site that you just changed the password >>>>> for. >>>>>>>> 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right >>>>>>>> arrow to >>>>>>>> navigate to the password field. Assuming that you >>>>> have show passwords checked in the view menu, you will see your old >>>>> password for the site. Press command e to allow you to >>>>> edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new password that is >>>>> still on >>>>> the clipboard. >>>>>>>> 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished >>>>>>>> editing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in >>>>>>>> 1password. You can trash the text edit document and all >>>>> is now right with the world. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert Carter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? >>>>>>>> "Jürgen Fleger" <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:20PM +0200 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a pdf to epub converter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jürgen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there's an update to Mountain Lion available Alex Hall >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:40PM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Check key echo under vo utility, verbosity, keyboard (I think). >>>>>>>> Also, as basic as it sounds, did you try a restart? I know the mac >>>>>>>> reboots for the install, but sometimes an additional reboot after >>>>>>>> the newly installed OS is up and running can help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TextEdit question >>>>>>>> Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> Aug 23 08:25AM -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how >>>>>>>> do I do >>>>>>>> this? >>>>>>>> I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Griffith <[email protected]> Aug 23 02:28PM +0100 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and >>>>>>>> end of a >>>>>>>> line. >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Aug 23 09:28AM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just like anywhere, it's cmd-right. I think of cmd as the >>>>>>>> top/bottom >>>>>>>> key, since: >>>>>>>> cmd-left moves to the start of a line cmd-right moves to the end of >>>>>>>> a line cmd-up moves to the top of the text cmd-down moves to the >>>>>>>> bottom of the text >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The option key is used with left/right to move by words. I have no >>>>>>>> idea if control does anything, or if option with up/down does >>>>>>>> anything... I should try that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> Aug 23 09:04AM -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great, this is wonderful, thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:23AM -0400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, that would be command right arrow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>>>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, >>>>>>>> starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >>>>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at >>>>>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-08-23, at 9:25 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Group macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> You can post via email. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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