Hi Yes I think so. I use the premium Karen for my Mac, and the compact one for my iPhone. But it's the same lady. She works well on the Mac for me. Lisette
On 25/08/2012, at 9:42 AM, agent086b <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, is the kerin the same is the one on the iPhone? > Thanks. > Max. voice > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: voices for the mack? > From: Christopher-Mark gilland <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:23:16 -0400 >> I don't know about purchasing, but what about the Kerin or the Lee voices >> that you can download sepretly through the Voiceover Utility? Are those not >> comfrible for you? >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chenelle Hancock >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:19 PM >> Subject: voices for the mack? >> >> hi all, >> i wanted to know if there were any australian voices for the mack that one >> could purchase? >> thanks for your help. >> sincerely, chenelle >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Today's Topic Summary >>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >>> >>> • dumb mail question [2 Updates] >>> • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates] >>> • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates] >>> • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update] >>> • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates] >>> • 1password accessibility [1 Update] >>> • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update] >>> • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update] >>> • TextEdit question [5 Updates] >>> dumb mail question >>> Bill Holton <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:52PM -0400 >>> >>> Hi. >>> What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to >>> consistently open a web URL insight email? >>> >>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:10PM -0400 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If >>> that fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO >>> shift M to bring up the context menu and select to open link or something >>> like that. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> >>> a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>> Joseph Norton <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:15PM -0400 >>> >>> Well, they finally did it! >>> >>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally >>> give you a progress report. >>> >>> Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement. >>> >>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>> >>> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:18PM -0500 >>> >>> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using >>> bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done? >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> >>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:30PM -0400 >>> >>> You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm >>> ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows >>> 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but >>> then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh. >>> >>> Anyways... >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Joseph Norton" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM >>> Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>> >>> >>> >>> christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:09PM +0100 >>> >>> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp >>> at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>> >>> christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:10PM +0100 >>> >>> Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before. >>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote: >>> >>> >>> Chris Blouch <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:19PM -0400 >>> >>> Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>> >>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:04PM -0400 >>> >>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the >>> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the >>> installation of windows accessible. >>> >>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> >>> "Daniel Miller" <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:08PM -0500 >>> >>> You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible, >>> since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp. >>> Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first >>> time ever that's accessible during install. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>> >>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the >>> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the >>> installation of windows accessible. >>> >>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth >>> >>> > Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. Thanks!On >>> > 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>> >> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows >>> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done? >>> >>> >> Skype name: >>> >> barefootedray >>> >>> >> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well, they finally did it! >>> >>> >>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they >>> finally give you a progress report. >>> >>> >>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Speaking rate in Voiceover >>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:08PM -0400 >>> >>> OK, I know about using vo+command+left and right arrow then when on rate, I >>> can move it up or down with vo+command+up and down arrows, but here's the >>> thing... >>> >>> It's moving in 5% increments. I kind of remember a while back, it's been >>> quite a while, but I vaguely remember someone saying that there was a >>> little >>> trick to actually adjust that in finer notches, where I literally could >>> move >>> it just a percentage at a time. >>> >>> Can someone refresh my noggin on how to do that? LOL! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> Esther <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:38AM -1000 >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a >>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as volume, >>> rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for adjustments in the >>> VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with the plethora of shortcut key >>> controls and QuickNav, but somebody else may be able to tell you how to do >>> this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to >>> do this, or maybe you can still do this on a full size keyboard? It was >>> certainly a feature in older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One >>> of the gruesome details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts >>> back instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was, >>> that not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows >>> moving for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser menu but turning >>> your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- but if you happened to >>> hold down the Shift key as well, this would all happen in slow motion, and >>> it would take even longer to recover response. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <[email protected]> Aug 23 04:45PM -0400 >>> >>> ok, but if I hit say a slider on the screen, and interact with it, if I >>> then >>> wanna move it up in small movements, you're saying hold the shift key down >>> while doing it? Wouldn't that not work? Think about that... to move the >>> slider, you'd use vo+up and down arrow after interacting. Well, if I wanna >>> move it up a little bit, then vo+up arrow, with the shift key... so... >>> vo+shift+...oops? I just stopped interacting with the slider. Bummer! >>> >>> What 'em I missing? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Esther" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Speaking rate in Voiceover >>> >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a >>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as volume, >>> rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for adjustments in the >>> VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with the plethora of shortcut key >>> controls and QuickNav, but somebody else may be able to tell you how to do >>> this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to >>> do this, or maybe you can still do this on a full size keyboard? It was >>> certainly a feature in older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One >>> of the gruesome details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts >>> back instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was, >>> that >>> not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows moving >>> for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser menu but turning your >>> screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- but if you happened to hold >>> down the Shift key as well, this would all happen in slow motion, and it >>> would take even longer to recover response. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Aug 23 06:07PM -0400 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> sure, this still works. The thing is, instead of pressing VO shift up/down, >>> you press VO shift left/right when you are interacting with the slider. I >>> do this many times a day to set the BPM in Garageband projects. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> >>> Is Facebook Now Completely Broken >>> Randy Stegall <[email protected]> Aug 23 05:35PM -0400 >>> >>> Try using the develop menu in safari. There you will find user agent. >>> Choose firefox and the fb mobile site should be accessible. Hth. >>> >>> Randy Stegall >>> [email protected] >>> From: Raleigh, NC >>> Sent from my Mac Mini >>> >>> >>> Best GPS app for iPhone >>> Harry Hogue <[email protected]> Aug 23 01:49PM -0600 >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I've heard mention of a couple of different accessible GPS apps on this >>> list for the iPhone, and I wondered which one people prefer to use and find >>> most useful and why? >>> >>> Thanks for any help. Oh, how much might such an app cost? >>> >>> Thanks, guys. >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:46PM +0200 >>> >>> Hello Harry, >>> >>> The best GPS app for iPhone is a very subjective matter. It very much >>> depends whether you mind having a 3G connection while using it or not. >>> >>> I like Navigon because its maps reside on the phone so it doesn't download >>> data. The version I have works all over Europe as long as I remember to >>> download the appropriate maps. >>> >>> However, I also like Ariadne GPS as an add-on, because it keeps me updated >>> as to where I am, and alerts me to the favourites I've put in. It does need >>> an internet connection, however, so I can't use it outside my home country >>> without incurring huge charges! >>> >>> These two apps work together since Navigon happily runs in the background. >>> >>> Quite a number of people use these two apps together, but I'm sure others >>> will have different suggestions since there are several GPS apps that only >>> work in the US. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> 1password accessibility >>> Robert Carter <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:41PM -0500 >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the >>> weak password stored in 1password. Making that assumption, here is how I >>> would proceed. >>> >>> 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to "new item" and press right >>> arrow to expand it. >>> 2. Down arrow to "new password" and press enter to open the dialogue. >>> 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a >>> strong password in this dialogue. >>> 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button to >>> put the password on the clipboard. >>> 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do this >>> because 1password only keeps the generated password on the clipboard for 90 >>> seconds or whatever you have it set to. >>> 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the >>> clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about it disappearing from the >>> clipboard. >>> 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password. >>> Get to the point on the site where you are being asked for the new password >>> and paste it in from the clipboard. >>> 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information >>> for the site that you just changed the password for. >>> 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to >>> navigate to the password field. Assuming that you have show passwords >>> checked in the view menu, you will see your old password for the site. >>> Press command e to allow you to edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the >>> new password that is still on the clipboard. >>> 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished editing. >>> >>> You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in >>> 1password. You can trash the text edit document and all is now right with >>> the world. >>> >>> Robert Carter >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? >>> "Jürgen Fleger" <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:20PM +0200 >>> >>> It's a pdf to epub converter. >>> >>> Jürgen >>> >>> >>> there's an update to Mountain Lion available >>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Aug 23 03:40PM -0400 >>> >>> Check key echo under vo utility, verbosity, keyboard (I think). Also, >>> as basic as it sounds, did you try a restart? I know the mac reboots >>> for the install, but sometimes an additional reboot after the newly >>> installed OS is up and running can help. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> TextEdit question >>> Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> Aug 23 08:25AM -0500 >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how do I do >>> this? >>> I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL. >>> Thanks, >>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>> >>> David Griffith <[email protected]> Aug 23 02:28PM +0100 >>> >>> Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and end of a >>> line. >>> and >>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Aug 23 09:28AM -0400 >>> >>> Just like anywhere, it's cmd-right. I think of cmd as the top/bottom key, >>> since: >>> cmd-left moves to the start of a line >>> cmd-right moves to the end of a line >>> cmd-up moves to the top of the text >>> cmd-down moves to the bottom of the text >>> >>> The option key is used with left/right to move by words. I have no >>> idea if control does anything, or if option with up/down does >>> anything... I should try that. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> Aug 23 09:04AM -0500 >>> >>> Great, this is wonderful, thanks. >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>> >>> erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Aug 23 10:23AM -0400 >>> >>> Hi, that would be command right arrow. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting >>> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2012-08-23, at 9:25 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group >>> macvisionaries. >>> You can post via email. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. >>> For more options, visit this group. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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