The thing that disappoints me is that VoiceOver still doesn't
automatically interact with html content when loading a web page like it
did in Lion. It just doesn't feel as nice and seamless as it used to
feel. I'll keep writing to apple but man, it would seem like the
simplest of tries with VoiceOver by the development staff would show
this. Bummer!
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On 9/20/2012 8:44 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
It came off pretty darn sarcastic to my ears as well Ray.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ray Foret Jr <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8
Brian, now look, I do understand your frustrations; but, frankly,
your personal attack upon me is entirely unwarranted. I was truly
only trying to help. Perhaps you're just having a sucky day; I
don't know. We're all subject to those days now and again; but, if
you are going to bite a hand that's only trying to give helpful
advice, then, my friend, perhaps it's high time you stepped away
from your computer for a bit and did something else to cool off.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Typical of this list, some guy like this Ray offering a useless
response to my constructive criticism. Anytime you say anything
negative even like I did in a professional way, you get a guy like
this Ray not adding to the conversation. I don't think I am out of
line expecting improvements to Voiceover, I just voiced my opinion,
and here comes this Ray right off the bat. I guess you are only
allowed to praise Apple on this board. Ray, I would love to be a
developer and help Apple in anyway that I can, unfortunately, I have a
very limited knowledge when it comes to programming and what I am sure
is some very advanced design work.
On Sep 20, 4:46 pm, Brian Fischler <[email protected]
<http://gmail.com>> wrote:
I know that we are not Apple's main focus group, but two updates to
10.8 and still not one improvement to Voiceover? There are some
pretty
basic fixable things, that I am very disappointed that Apple has not
addressed in either update. And before I get blasted for posting
anything negative on this board about Apple, yes, I have emailed
Apple
Accessibility, and yes, I have used a Mac for a long time. The one
primary thing that seems like a quick fix would be getting Web spots
to work properly in safari. I am still stunned that you have to now
click VO command right bracket to go left or up a page, and VO
command
left bracket to go right or down a page. Anyone with the
slightest bit
of logic would have realized that this is reversed.
Numbers is still very difficult to use if you have a big spreadsheet
as there is no way to search for a certain cell in a large document.
While the command to do this in Lion was bizarre at least it worked
most of the time. Calling Apple Accessibility, I find it hilarious
that the people at the specialized Voiceover department know nothing
about numbers, and the numbers department know nothing about
Voiceover. Pretty hilarious.
QuickNav is still unbelievably buggy. Several times a day QuickNav
just stops working, and I have to toggle VO off and on to get it to
start working again.
Just wanted to name a few and mention it would be nice to
actually see
a Voiceover improvement in an update to the operating system.
Otherwise, what is the point of me taking the time to contact Apple
Accessibility. They have gotten back to me every time which is very
nice of them, but lets start getting some of these issues
implemented.
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