Okay,  so, did you yourself create such a trouble ticket?  
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On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app list 
> isn't a realistic access methodology.  The structure of the App Store prior 
> to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store.  Since the change, My perusal 
> and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply.  This isn't 
> because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's because the 
> access has become so chancy and difficult.
> 
> Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may 
> deserve a second hard look.  This is because when Apple opened its 
> accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some entrenched 
> and very expensive blindness products and made the major Windows screen 
> readers look clumsy and badly designed.
> 
> You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying down? 
>  What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could be given to 
> Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new access?  What if 
> the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly season variety, as in 
> that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the perfectly good Australian voice 
> to mispronounce standard words.  Some of us blind users depend on the 
> pronounciation to know how a word is spelled.  Some mispronounced words when 
> spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent, sound exactly like other real words.
> 
> So, with a few suggestions that get accepted,  and with a few more that well, 
> really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle much, can 
> they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform tilts toward the 
> glitchy, falty Windows variety.
> 
> It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created.  How did that 
> old patriotic saying go?  Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
> 
> So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and 
> interfaces.
> 
> By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices, as 
> long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad Mini
> 
> On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the IPhone at 
>> least, I definitely! can show you.  It's a little weird, but it is extremely 
>> doable.  I do it all the time!
>> 
>> OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring the 
>> page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the 
>> screen, if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you have, 
>> but if you have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the artwork 
>> for the app, what you need is immediately just directly below that.  it's 
>> basically gonna be right between that artwork, and your home key.  If you 
>> can't see it, it is a flickable item, so don't worry.  If push comes to 
>> shove, you definitely! can flick to it.  You will see that there is an 
>> adjuster.  It'll say something like 1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever.  Now, 
>> what you want to do is on that adjuster, just like you would do normally, 
>> just one finger flick up to get to the next result, and one finger flick 
>> down to get to the previous one.  Be sure you're focused on that adjuster 
>> though before you virtically flick.  Otherwise, you're gonna be moving the 
>> currently set rotor setting like words, headings, characters, etc.
>> 
>> Again, no dice for the IPad.  I will say that Chris from Apple did call me 
>> back yesterday, around 6, rigbht before he left for the day, and he told me 
>> that he, his boss, and about 5 or 6 others had a staff meeting which he 
>> himself requested, to discuss the stores IPad accessibility moving forward, 
>> as he too agreed since I O S 6.anything came out, it's somewhat climbed down 
>> hill in Voiceover support.  In this meeting, he told me one of the key 
>> outline discussions did revolve around my exact problem.  He definitely did 
>> send it up to engineering.  I'd encourage all of you guys to also write, and 
>> have them create you a case number like Chris did for me, this way it's not 
>> just an oh, we'll send it up.  You need to insist that they give you a case 
>> number.  I think the more people who do this, the better.  They are? now 
>> definitely, if nothing else, at least from me, aware the issue's there, but 
>> they're not gonna do anything with just one person.  I promise you they 
>> won't.  I didn't say one person can't make a difference, so don't read me 
>> out of context.  I simply said, one person might make a difference, yes, but 
>> only if others also report the bug/breakage.  Let's not bombard them, but, 
>> let's really pull together and let's all let them know.  Regardless if they 
>> care or not really at this point is not an issue.  Let's let them know, then 
>> if they choose to not act on it, then, we'll bitch, but until then, let's 
>> see what they say.
>> 
>> Thank you kindly,
>> 
>> Christopher-Mark Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> 
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>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheree Heppe" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: iPad app store
>> 
>> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> Same with me on an iphone  4s, ipadd 2 and ipad mini.
>> Totally unusable.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
>> 
>> On 06/11/2012, at 15:14, Lisette Wesseling <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm only going to weigh into this discussion by saying that I too am having 
>>> the problems Chris described. I'm running an iPad 2 gen with 6.01. I can 
>>> only get to one of the search results after pressing search. The pop up 
>>> above the search field does populate, but double tapping on anything 
>>> produces the message that there are no results. Interesting some people are 
>>> not having this problem. I'm going to write to Apple about it and hopefully 
>>> it will be fixed soon.
>>> Cheers all
>>> Lisette
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