What good does it do to challenge her, Ray? I don't think she would have suggested it, had she not done it. People, the people like her and I were not born yesterday. We're not stupid. Of corse we put it not one, not two, not 50 tickets that seem to for the most part go unresolved. They fix things when they're good and ready to fix 'em. NOt when customers seem to need them fixed. It's sad, but it's the truth. Like it or not. Willing to admit it or not.
Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: [email protected] IMessage/Facetime: [email protected] Windows Live Messenger: [email protected] Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Foret Jr To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:15 PM Subject: Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating Okay, so, did you yourself create such a trouble ticket? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote: Cheree Heppe here: This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app list isn't a realistic access methodology. The structure of the App Store prior to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store. Since the change, My perusal and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply. This isn't because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's because the access has become so chancy and difficult. Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may deserve a second hard look. This is because when Apple opened its accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some entrenched and very expensive blindness products and made the major Windows screen readers look clumsy and badly designed. You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying down? What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could be given to Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new access? What if the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly season variety, as in that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the perfectly good Australian voice to mispronounce standard words. Some of us blind users depend on the pronounciation to know how a word is spelled. Some mispronounced words when spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent, sound exactly like other real words. So, with a few suggestions that get accepted, and with a few more that well, really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle much, can they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform tilts toward the glitchy, falty Windows variety. It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created. How did that old patriotic saying go? Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and interfaces. By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices, as long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my iPad Mini On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> wrote: Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the IPhone at least, I definitely! can show you. It's a little weird, but it is extremely doable. I do it all the time! OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring the page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the screen, if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you have, but if you have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the artwork for the app, what you need is immediately just directly below that. it's basically gonna be right between that artwork, and your home key. If you can't see it, it is a flickable item, so don't worry. If push comes to shove, you definitely! can flick to it. You will see that there is an adjuster. It'll say something like 1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever. Now, what you want to do is on that adjuster, just like you would do normally, just one finger flick up to get to the next result, and one finger flick down to get to the previous one. Be sure you're focused on that adjuster though before you virtically flick. Otherwise, you're gonna be moving the currently set rotor setting like words, headings, characters, etc. Again, no dice for the IPad. I will say that Chris from Apple did call me back yesterday, around 6, rigbht before he left for the day, and he told me that he, his boss, and about 5 or 6 others had a staff meeting which he himself requested, to discuss the stores IPad accessibility moving forward, as he too agreed since I O S 6.anything came out, it's somewhat climbed down hill in Voiceover support. In this meeting, he told me one of the key outline discussions did revolve around my exact problem. He definitely did send it up to engineering. I'd encourage all of you guys to also write, and have them create you a case number like Chris did for me, this way it's not just an oh, we'll send it up. You need to insist that they give you a case number. I think the more people who do this, the better. They are? now definitely, if nothing else, at least from me, aware the issue's there, but they're not gonna do anything with just one person. I promise you they won't. I didn't say one person can't make a difference, so don't read me out of context. I simply said, one person might make a difference, yes, but only if others also report the bug/breakage. Let's not bombard them, but, let's really pull together and let's all let them know. Regardless if they care or not really at this point is not an issue. Let's let them know, then if they choose to not act on it, then, we'll bitch, but until then, let's see what they say. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: [email protected] IMessage/Facetime: [email protected] Windows Live Messenger: [email protected] Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheree Heppe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: Re: iPad app store Cheree Heppe here: Same with me on an iphone 4s, ipadd 2 and ipad mini. Totally unusable. Sent from my IPhone 4S On 06/11/2012, at 15:14, Lisette Wesseling <[email protected]> wrote: I'm only going to weigh into this discussion by saying that I too am having the problems Chris described. I'm running an iPad 2 gen with 6.01. I can only get to one of the search results after pressing search. The pop up above the search field does populate, but double tapping on anything produces the message that there are no results. Interesting some people are not having this problem. I'm going to write to Apple about it and hopefully it will be fixed soon. Cheers all Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
