Tim,

Thanks for the information about the user's guide.  I'll confess that I read 
user guides for screen readers and operating a computer; I have never thought 
to do so on any phone I've ever owned.  :)

Thanks,

Harry

On dic 11, 2012, at 8:15 a.m., Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Harry,
> 
> You can download the iPhone Users Guide from Apple.  It is a pdf and one of 
> the chapters near the end is totally dedicated to the use of the 
> accessibility features, especially VO.  I usually read it in Single Page view 
> as Preview behaves much better for me then.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-11, at 12:28 AM, Harry Hogue <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Tim,
>> 
>> Wow -- this was amazingly helpful; thank you very much.  Did you find these 
>> tricks with the iPhone out by playing with the phone? I don't recall any 
>> detailed instructions about moving items around with VoiceOver on the phone, 
>> only when using VO with the Mac are deliberate VO commands usually provided, 
>> or so it seems.
>> 
>> Thanks again.  That is, by the way, what I thought about the Clock app.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On dic 10, 2012, at 9:11 p.m., Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Harry,
>>> 
>>> Placing the Compass and Clock on the Home screen is entirely possible but 
>>> separating the Timer and such out of the Clock is not.  The Alarm, 
>>> Stop-Watch and Timer are all built-in to the Clock app and thus cannot be 
>>> pulled out.
>>> 
>>> To move items out of the Utilities folder, double-tap and hold on the item 
>>> until VO says moving said item.  Don't let go then drag your finger towards 
>>> any edge of the screen, usually I go left or upper left.  Vo will say 
>>> something like "Moving outside folder,", just lift your finger at that 
>>> point and it will be taken out of the folder.  Press your Home button once 
>>> to take it out of Edit mode.
>>> 
>>> You can press it again to close the folder then use the same process to 
>>> move it to wherever you wish on the Home screen.  Be careful not to drop it 
>>> in another folder or on another item.  If it's dropped on another item, a 
>>> new folder will be created.  If you move to the right spot, VO will 
>>> announce the Row and Column and you simply lift your finger to drop it 
>>> there.  Items after the place that you drop it will be pushed out of the 
>>> way.  Also, note that if your page is already full, items can be pushed to 
>>> the next page.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-12-10, at 6:26 PM, Harry Hogue <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I am interested to know how I can go about putting icons on my home screen 
>>>> from other pages in the phone.  Specifically, I am interested in putting 
>>>> the compass on my home screen (it is currently in the utilities folder on 
>>>> page 2), and I would also like to put the timer and alarm clock on my home 
>>>> screen as separate icons, if that is even possible.  They are all 
>>>> currently under "Clock."
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any help.  I really appreciate it.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
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