How do you do VO on a braille display when using the Mac?  I've not used my 
braille display very much with a Mac, and because I've not had a computer for 
over a month, I've not had the opportunity to use my braille display with a Mac.

Kawal.

On 5 Jan 2013, at 01:34 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Scott. 
> I realize that she was talking about Vo J and that it is different. However, 
> I tested it, and it works anyway on email messages. I did that before I wrote 
> the post. I wanted to see if it would work. It did. In fact, I wonder if 
> these commands VO J and the usual interacting command are interchangeable. 
> I'll test it and find out. 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> HI Gigi.
>> She was asking about VO plus J, which jumps to the text content of an
>> email mesage. This is different than interacting with an item. I'm not
>> trying to be rude or anything like that, I just thought I should
>> clerify. Unless I'm the one off base here?
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 1/4/13, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I have created my own command for this space with J. You can create
>>> keyboard commands on the display, however, they can only be for
>>> VoiceOver specific keyboard commands. For example, VO plus J works
>>> fine, but command Q, which is an OSX command, will not work.
>>> Apparently there is some kind of Apple scripting way of doing this,
>>> but I don't know how. SO in short, yes, you can program your display
>>> to use specific functions related to VoiceOver, but not any keyboard
>>> command that is generalized to the Mac. You'll find that some keyboard
>>> commands on the Mac already have a braille equivalent, such as space
>>> with 2-3-6 to interact with items and space with 3-5-6 to stop
>>> interacting.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 1/4/13, Chris Bruinenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I
>>>>> would
>>>>> like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I
>>>>> was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and
>>>>> I
>>>>> could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with
>>>>> the
>>>>> Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO
>>>>> and the Focus or any other Braille display.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a
>>>>> lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at
>>>>> my
>>>>> list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J
>>>>> command to get into the message. That is just an example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac.
>>>>>>> Best of luck deciding on one!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think the code is 0000 for the Focus.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kristeen.
>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using
>>>>>>>>> your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it
>>>>>>>>> within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure
>>>>>>>>> you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> don't find each other right away.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code.
>>>>>>>>> Some of them are 1234 and some are 0000, so others here can tell you
>>>>>>>>> what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille,
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for
>>>>>>>>> Christmas.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most
>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>> help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to
>>>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>>>> the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you
>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> you can email me off list if you like.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift.  I am wondering a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off
>>>>>>>>>>>> list so
>>>>>>>>>>>> as not to clutter? Please???
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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