Hello Estelita,

What Danny means is that the Control+F5 command sequence moves you between the 
title bar and the pane, depending on where your current focus is.  Just as an 
example, if you have brought up the Preferences pane for an application with 
Command+comma, pressing Control+F5 will jump between the toolbar and the 
selected pane.  As Colin mentioned, this is a general Mac keyboard shortcut for 
moving to the toolbar.  If you use this you do not have to interact with the 
toolbar before you navigate to the various toolbar options and select them.  
And you can also use this to toggle focus between the selected pane and the 
toolbar.

This is one of the reasons that Anne Robertson and others who commented about 
teaching new Mac users stressed the importance of instructing them on the 
default Apple keyboard shortcuts that are not VoiceOver-specific. A lot of new 
users ask for a list of all VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without realizing that 
Apple has built many standard shortcuts that are not VoiceOver specific into 
the operating system.  

And using the Control+F5 shortcut as a way of minimizing the need to interact 
with a toolbar has been around since this list started (i.e., there are 
references in the old list archives at the Mail Archive site that are at least 
6 or 7 years old).

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 14, 2013, at 15:41, Estelita wrote:

> Can you please share to us what you have found?
> It is very helpful especially for us new Mac users.
> Thank you.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Noonan" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address 
> bar in Safari
> 
> 
> And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac 
> commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the 
> apple and extra menu  commands etc are making my life so much easier.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Danny:
> 
> On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the 
>> tool bar!
>> Standard Mac command!
>> hth Colin
>> 

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