Hi Richard, You're right on the mark, not missing anything. The VO-j command jumps you to the Preview Pane and because you've removed it, that is no longer the method to use. I've always used the "return/cmd-w" method so it's never been an issue for me. I certainly understand people's frustration though that are used to VO-j or other methods.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2013-01-22, at 5:51 AM, Richard Ring <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim and list: > These instructions were brilliant, and now I see message status. However, I > have a dumb question to ask, and perhaps I'm staring something right in the > face and overlooking it. Before getting rid of the preview pane, when I was > in a list of messages, I would press v o J to go into a message, and v o j to > return to the messages table. Well, this command no longer works for me. When > I press v o j now, I always find myself interacting with the mailboxes table. > Is this because in the past, VO j was interacting with the preview pane? I > know I'm missing something. I can, of course, read a message by pressing > enter, and return to the messages table by pressing command w. Just curious > as to the reason for this change in behavior. > > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > [email protected] > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Here's the content of a message I posted a while back that explains how to >> get rid of the Preview pane and down at the bottom of the content, it >> explains how you can confirm that it's enabled/disable. When the Preview >> pane is disable, you normally can determine the read/unread status of >> messages. >> >> 1. Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages >> table. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed). This will bring the mouse to the VO >> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal >> Splitter". >> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the top >> of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom. Make sure in this case that you >> actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will work. >> >> 2. Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic or Normal layout: >> >> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group. >> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO cursor. >> It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed to do. >> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the >> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release. As >> in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that >> the dragging process will occur. >> >> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter >> and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. >> Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose that option. >> >> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked. Firstly, you can >> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about >> "Message Content Area", life is good. >> >> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure. In >> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the "New >> Mailbox Action" menu. You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one after the >> Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about. Once you've located this >> Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down. VO will announce >> "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear. In non-Classic (Normal) layout, >> navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column >> Group and Interact with it. Press VO-right and VO will announce "Collapsed" >> if the Preview pane is gone. >> >> See if that helps. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2013-01-21, at 3:50 PM, Richard Ring <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I honestly don't know if it is, I don't know how to tell. >>> >>> >>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>> Fielding >>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>> [email protected] >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> Is your Preview Pane active? >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-20, at 8:00 AM, Richard Ring <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mine doesn't either, once in a while the reply was sent button will >>>>> appear, but I can never know whether a message was read or not. >>>>> >>>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>>>> Fielding >>>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Kerri <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, all. Ever since I've had this Mac, VO does not state whether a >>>>>> message is unread. I have my mail set on classic but even when I change >>>>>> it, it is all to no avail. 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