Hello Sara,

Some more quick additions of sources of information on VoiceOver related 
topics:  

I mentioned earlier in the thread that you can find out a lot about previous 
discussions on these lists by using the Mail Archives web page for this list at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
and running a search in the text box.  Searching supports wild cards, boolean 
arguments, date range, author, and many other features, but you can get a lot 
from just putting in basic searches.  Apart from the fact that the search 
algorithms are much better than the ones from Google Groups, and that the pages 
are accessible to all user platforms and browsers, what is particularly useful 
is the ability to read up and down threads with access key combinations, 
because you can quickly view exactly what posts a user is responding to in the 
context of long threads.  I forgot to note that if you start up Safari without 
VoiceOver running, the access key prefix combination is "Control-Option" and 
not simply "Control", so you would press Control-Option-n to read the next post 
in the thread.  The archived list posts go back to December 2005, before this 
list moved to Google Groups in 2009.  The old archives are at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

The mac-access list, another list for Mac VoiceOver users, is also archived at 
the mail archive site, and is searchable:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]

If you want to find out about more lists of Mac users, many of these are 
summarized at John Panarese's Macfortheblind.com  web site.  You can also 
create a web shortcut file for the mail-archive sites to email or place on your 
Desktop, or elsewhere.  This was previously detailed here, but is more easily 
found on the "Tips and Tricks" page at John's site:
http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-the-Mac
(VoiceOver users can use item chooser menu VO-i to navigate to "Web Shortcut 
Files", or navigate by heading).  This web shortcut file works on Windows 
machines, too. to open the default browser to the designated web page.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hello Sara,
> 
> The quickest resource to point you to is Apple's VoiceOver Downloads page:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
> 
> That contains the link to the current VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (that 
> is also on your computer if you start up VoiceOver with Command-F5), and can 
> be accessed once VoiceOver is turned on by pressing Control-Option-F5 by 
> accessing the VoiceOver Help menu with Control-Option-h
> 
> The Control and Option key combinations are referred to here as the 
> "VO-Keys", and are pressed in combination with other letters.  So to bring up 
> the help menu with VO-h means pressing Control-Option-h.
> 
> When you turn on VoiceOver with Command-F5, you will be taken through an 
> introduction training in the basics.  More details are given in the VoiceOver 
> Getting Started Guide (on the web), with a summary of commands in the 
> appendices.
> 
> There are different resources for learning about the accessibility APIs for 
> developers.  Another good place to get basic information is the AppleVis.com 
> web site under the Users Guides,  David Woodbridge has been running a series 
> of podcasts for new Mac users there, and also has a number of resources at 
> the Vision Australia Web site.
> 
> This is an older link to their web pages, but is more suited to an 
> introductory impression:
> Adaptive Technology Related POD casts, files, and links
> <http://www.adaptive-tech.org/ess/html/>
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:39 AM, SaraFord wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone!
>>  
>> Wow, thanks for all the responses! I appreciate the warm welcome. I’ve read 
>> all the comments, even though I'm replying to the middle of the thread. And 
>> I have taken notes. I’ve also learned that there are also other areas I need 
>> to investigate that I wouldn’t have known about if it wasn’t for this thread.
>>  
>> For what it’s worth, my personal philosophy is that software is about 
>> people. Sure, at the end of the day, the code must be written correctly, but 
>> it is the experiences of the people who both use the code and write the code 
>> that matter the most. So thanks again for sharing your experiences with me. 
>> It is all about people.
>>  
>> One question I have for this forum is where might I find the best training 
>> materials for learning Voice Over? As I mentioned previously, I’ve been 
>> trained in the past on Window Eyes and JAWS. I’m hoping there are some 
>> online courses or documentation out there so I can learn to use Voice Over 
>> effectively. It doesn’t matter what application the training is for. I just 
>> need to get used to the keyboard shortcuts and how Voice Over structures its 
>> Text to Speech output.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> -sara
>> 
> 

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