Hello, I think if there were enough low vision users to contact Apple accessibility and ask for different color combinations Within their zoom product, There would be no need for Third-party vendors to develop a nap. We as low vision users/screen reader users Need to be our own advocate for technology that will help us. Apple will listen, if there are enough of us who will make the requests. If not, they will assume their product is satisfactory, or we take them for granted. As we all know, if and when something or someone is taken for granted, for long enough, it goes away. We all have to be in direct communication with the accessibility department, to help steer them in directions that will better affect our means to use their products thereby allowing us to advertise for them. Pam Francis
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote: I'm going to play the cynic here, and ask, just what does ZoomText offer that Zoom does not? I'll be happy to read somewhere, but WILL NOT install a demo without answers first, as I too, am fully satisfied with Zoom, and it's ability to work in conjunction with VoiceOver. Jmo. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Pam Francis <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > I hope my comments werenot construed as being ungrateful. I am primarily a > voiceover user, though do have the vision to use screen magnification to find > elements on the screen voiceover doesn't seem to want to read. I have found > Apple's own screen magnification to work quite nicely. I did look at the app. > Fortunately, it will also run with voiceover running. I hope Apple can take > take some ideas from a couple of features with zoom text. At times, it is > helpful to have different color combinations. Yes, I do contact > [email protected] with suggestions.all, > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Considering that Apple continues to score record breaking profits with its >> product line, cost cutting is not likely a major issue just now. >> still have people broached the screen maganification factor with apple >> accessibility directly? >> I honestly figured that it already existed in some form. >> Those I know who use zoom text for windows use its screen readability too, >> so I tend to doubt they could simply come in without following the developer >> root Apple requires for mac work. >> Just a guess though. >> Karen >> >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Thanks for your kind response. I understand Zim text is not a screen reader >>> per se. I use a combination of speech and screen magnification. My concern >>> is with the idea that Apple would allow someone else into their API >>> therefore allowing a third-party vendor to take over their accessibility >>> for which they have done quite well. As a friend of mine stated earlier >>> today, everyone is looking to cut costs somewhere. Conceivably Apple could >>> be looking at excess ability as a Means of attempting to cut costs of their >>> product. I pray that is not the case. Be at screen magnification or speech, >>> I certainly do not want to go back to the world of SMA agreements with >>> third-party vendors. If AI squared can make a product that is an adjunct to >>> what Apple offers rather than a direct competitor, I have no problem. >>> However if it is the first step of taking over accessibility in one form or >>> another I have an issue. >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Tom Frank <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ZoomText is not a screen reader, and as there questions and answers state, >>> they have no interest in making a screen reader for the Mac. >>> >>> AI squared only makes products for low vision users. Their Windows products >>> include some text to speech features, but, no matter what, you need some >>> vision to navigate. >>> although Voice Over is fantastic, Apple has not done a very good job on >>> Screen magnification software. Therefore, I believe there is a definite >>> void for third party developers to fill. >>> >>> >>> Frank Tom >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pam Francis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> I also downloaded the file. It seems to work, yet needsa little work with >>>> reference to its layout. Not sure how I feel about 3rd party developers >>>> getting in to the mac OS with referenced to Apple seems to do an admirable >>>> job thus far. I am afraid if 3rd party developers are allowed in to their >>>> API, it will be the death of mac accessibility as we know it. We will be >>>> expected to pay outrageous prices for screen readers as has been the norm >>>> on the windows side.accessibility. >>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Tom Frank <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I downloaded Zoomtext successfully last night and took it for a short >>>>> spin. It seems to work quite well. I went to the products link on the AI >>>>> Squared website and found the Mac download link there. I had to enter my >>>>> name, email and a few other details and it then downloaded the file to my >>>>> download folder. The process was quite painless. >>>>> Tom >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Emilio S. Hernandez" >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have recently tried to download the demo for Zoom text. >>>>>> I went to the developer website, which was provided as a link in the >>>>>> Applevis News feed I am subscribed to. >>>>>> Upon entering in my information, I was taken to a page where I could >>>>>> download a trial version. I was not able to find a Mac specific download >>>>>> file. Everything pointed me to Windows only. >>>>>> Would anyone know what I have not done correctly? Would anyone be >>>>>> willing to guide me in the direction I need to go in order to download >>>>>> this demo? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Emilio's iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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