Hi Mary and Others, As Phil and others have stated, you can use keyremap4macbook to get both an embedded Numpad working, and you can modify your keyboard to so that you have VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard. Mary, since you're on the mac-access list, you can check their archives for my posting of a complete description on using keyremap4macbook last August. I also posted a link to that post on the AppleVis web site guides and podcasts that Eric Caron submitted.That post describes not only how keyremap4macbook works, but the fastest ways I found of navigating to set up a variety of different types of key remappings using VoiceOver.
Back in January, Cheryl Homiak described a slightly different way of getting VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard than Traci uses. KR4MB (to abbreviate) lets you configure keys that only act when they are used in combination with other keys. Cheryl set up her keyboard so that the right Command key acts as a Command key when pressed by itself, but acts as a Control key when pressed together with the right Shift key. So, she basically has VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard by pressing the two keys next to the space bar, along with the right Shift key, reached by stretching over with the pinky, I think, of her right hand. Like Anne, I'm used to typing on a Mac laptop keyboard and executing all the VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without assistance, but I do like the default action of KR4MB, even without the hack to get the caps lock key mapped to be the VO-keys. First, you can automatically get access to an embedded numpad on the right side of the keyboard. You get the full numpad extending below the "7 8 9" keys on the top row of number keys simply by pressing the "Fn" key together with the corresponding embedded numpad key. Even better, if you turn on NumPad Commander, you can use these keys in combination with modifiers to get the complete range of your customized NumPad Commander definitions. And if you don't want to have the embedded NumPad, you can simply check a box in the KR4MB preferences setup to disable this feature. Then you could use an additional external NumPad. But you could still use KR4MB to let you press the Command+Option+Shift keys on the right side of the keyboard to act as the Control+Option keys for VoiceOver. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:50:11 AM UTC-4, Traci wrote: > > I use keyRemap, and now the right command key is a control key. So I have > VO keys on the right. > > I also followed some instructions on AppleVis to set my caps lock key as > voKeys, but funny enough, I don't use it much. I have a feeling that tweak > was for Jaws users. > > TC, > Traci > On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:46 AM, "Phil Halton" <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set > right shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right > shift acted as right VO keys. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela J Francis" > > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > > > To: <[email protected] <javascript:>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM > > Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. > There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my > keyboard with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you > could set a hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard. > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > >> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in > keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am > very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num > pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but > to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and > I've just never found it all that efficient. > >> > >> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook > Air, and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. > There are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A > and vo D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my > left hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the > machine will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick > Apple for getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not > practical, I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops > with a full keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on > the right and the num pad? > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> Mary Otten > >> [email protected] <javascript:> > >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
