Phil, Chris, and Others, Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up and running using Bootcamp. I am good to go, and I can't say how much I appreciate the help. Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again.
As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with the Gmail web interfase? Thanks, Harry On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: > As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive into > two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides will have > less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily change this down > the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch of space to Windows > 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac side. Fusion is just an app > except the documents it creates are virtual machines. You can give a Fusion > virtual machine a large partition but the 'document' will only use as much as > needed. Just like you can make a Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it > will be pretty tiny because there is nothing in it. So this is a big > advantage. You don't have to know ahead of time how much space to give to > Fusion. Just give it 40GB or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it > actually needs and will grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you > need to do some Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the > disk space it uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact on > the performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck > up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine > but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side. > > I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you should > be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go that way. I'm > sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions. > > CB > > On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote: >> Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept my >> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them >> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions >> as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be >> partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the partitioning >> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half >> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down >> the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? >> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >> >> >> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws >> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a >> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no >> screen reader can possibly be loaded. >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add >>> it >>> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and >>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>> >>> >>> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. >>> Apple >>> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult >>> to >>> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager, >>> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine. >>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As I >>>> said >>>> the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does >>>> the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to >>>> go >>>> especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the >>>> program. >>>> The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't >>>> state >>>> the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure >>>> voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically? >>>> Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me >>>> navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Nicholas Parsons" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part >>>> of >>>> your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation >>>> (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion). >>>> >>>> I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is >>>> inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are >>>> just >>>> passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at >>>> least >>>> mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I >>>> was >>>> told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that >>>> there >>>> was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by >>>> default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form though >>>> so >>>> I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those >>>> accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because >>>> of >>>> course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not >>>> accessible. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected] >> >> >> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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