On 6/20/13, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > Open gmail.com, then do a find command and search for "basic ". That should > give you the "basic html" link - hit enter on that and things will be much > easier. Once the page loads, see if the word "default" appears anywhere and, > if it does, hit that link as well so the basic interface is your default. > On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Harry Hogue <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Phil, Chris, and Others, >> >> Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up >> and running using Bootcamp. I am good to go, and I can't say how much I >> appreciate the help. Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again. >> >> As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with >> the Gmail web interfase? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive >>> into two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides >>> will have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily >>> change this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch >>> of space to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac >>> side. Fusion is just an app except the documents it creates are virtual >>> machines. You can give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but the >>> 'document' will only use as much as needed. Just like you can make a >>> Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it will be pretty tiny because >>> there is nothing in it. So this is a big advantage. You don't have to >>> know ahead of time how much space to give to Fusion. Just give it 40GB or >>> so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it actually needs and will grow >>> that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you need to do some Windows >>> stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the disk space it uses up >>> for the virtual machine document it has no impact on the performance of >>> your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck up whatever >>> CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine but then >>> you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side. >>> >>> I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you >>> should be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go >>> that way. I'm sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote: >>>> Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept >>>> my >>>> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking >>>> them >>>> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking >>>> questions >>>> as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be >>>> partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the >>>> partitioning >>>> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I >>>> half >>>> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere >>>> down >>>> the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? >>>> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>> >>>> >>>> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. >>>> Jaws >>>> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When >>>> a >>>> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why >>>> no >>>> screen reader can possibly be loaded. >>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple >>>>> add >>>>> it >>>>> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, >>>>> and >>>>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. >>>>> Apple >>>>> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be >>>>> difficult >>>>> to >>>>> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot >>>>> Manager, >>>>> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the >>>>> machine. >>>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As >>>>>> I >>>>>> said >>>>>> the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion >>>>>> does >>>>>> the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way >>>>>> to >>>>>> go >>>>>> especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the >>>>>> program. >>>>>> The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't >>>>>> state >>>>>> the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure >>>>>> voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up >>>>>> automatically? >>>>>> Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help >>>>>> me >>>>>> navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows? >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Nicholas Parsons" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows >>>>>> part >>>>>> of >>>>>> your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel >>>>>> installation >>>>>> (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion). >>>>>> >>>>>> I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is >>>>>> inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are >>>>>> just >>>>>> passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at >>>>>> least >>>>>> mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. >>>>>> I >>>>>> was >>>>>> told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but >>>>>> that >>>>>> there >>>>>> was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key >>>>>> by >>>>>> default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form >>>>>> though >>>>>> so >>>>>> I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those >>>>>> accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should >>>>>> because >>>>>> of >>>>>> course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not >>>>>> accessible. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > [email protected] > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > Thank you very much! That works!
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