Probably true. About 25% of MS income comes from their "Business"
segment which includes Office as opposed to their Windows,
Servers&Tools, Online and Entertainment segments. The Business segment
include stuff like Sharepoint and Exchange but I suspect a good chunk
(say 50%) is Office sales. If that is true then about 12% of revenue is
Office. Of that 12% I would guess only 10% is Mac so that means 1.2%. Of
those Mac users how many care about VoiceOver? Maybe 1%? So if they got
VoiceOver working it might increase sales by .12%, although there is the
halo effect of doing the right thing. Still, if MS revenue is $20.6
Billion, .12% would be about $25 million being 'left on the table' by
not making Office accessible.
CB
On 6/21/13 11:48 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Perfect time for Apple to swoop in then. Hopefully, we will see some major
accessibility improvements with in the newest version of iWorks that should be
out in the not too distant future. I don’t think the lack of accessibility in
MS office on the Mac is a ploy to keep blind people chained to windows though.
I mean, If that was MS true intentions, they just wouldn’t bothered have making
an Mac OS version of office. I don’t think a few hundred thousand blind users
would hurt MS bottom line either way.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
Makes me wonder if it's not a tactical reasoning for MS to not make Office work
on the Mac? Certainly not in their best interest to have more folks go to OSX.
CB
On 6/21/13 10:39 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
Forgive for my blasphemy, but doing a find is far easier in Excell for windows.
It's things like this which cause people either rightfully or wrongfully to say
that the Mac is not a good productivity tool for blind folks.
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Sent from my Mac Book Pro
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On Jun 21, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree that the find command, which works in other applications with the VO
keys and f, should work in Numbers as well. Since Apple is busy making changes
to iWorks, I hope that's on our wish list for VoiceOver for this to be fixed.
Regards,
Gigi
On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Ann, I will definitely try all this, and it good to hear that Find
works, but seriously are you kidding me, that is a little ridiculous to have to
do all of that for a simple find/search in a document. Again, glad to hear it
works, but there has got to be a much easier way.
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Brian,
It's perfectly possible to search for content with VO in Numbers. I just tried
it and it works in Mountain Lion.
To find specific content,
Turn cursor tracking off;
Press Command-f and enter search term;
Navigate down and interact with scroll area;
Interact with table:
Find desired result;
Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space);
Stop interacting with table and scroll area;
Navigate up to next scroll area;
Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item;
You will be on the selected cell;
Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell.
Cheers,
Anne
On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:45, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
You can get all the memory upgrades you want, but it is still not going to make
numbers fully accessible. I have spoken to Apple countless times about Numbers
and Accessibility. If you have a large spread sheet, there is no way to do a
find or search to jump to a cell, as they broke that function in mountain lion.
Apple is aware of this issue, and they told me numbers and pages have not been
updated since before Voiceover came out, so it doesn't fully work with
Voiceover. Kind of frustrating when you consider productivity. I used to use
numbers all the time, and several times a day all of the sudden I couldn't
enter any data into the spread sheet. I would have to quit numbers and restart.
I have switched over to a database program as numbers got so frustrating to use.
On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Chris,
You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that
row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key
for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual
machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
Cheers,
Anne
On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello,
I have just started using Numbers on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion and,
so far, have two questions.
1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says
you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a keyboard
shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these points with the
touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so please can someone
tell me what it is?
2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting
"busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion
even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that increasing RAM
makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth doubling this, or maybe adding
even more RAM than that?
Many thanks,
Chris Edwards
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