It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without *any 
assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it before 
> you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting at, someone 
> said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of thousands of 
> other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so can you. 
> Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are somehow 
> different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, exactly how do 
> you know that? Answer: you don't!
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <shalo...@shaw.ca>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
> 
> 
> Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
> deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
> For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes I 
> got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal for 
> to you what is big is not to the next person.
> On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the onscreen 
>> keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing mode to 
>> "touch", its even easier.
>> 
>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>> the environment.
>> 
>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was worried 
>> about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I really needed 
>> to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, then move on to 
>> other less important functions. Within a week I was using the iPhone like an 
>> old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's mostly the fear of change 
>> and a new way of doing things that seems to get in newcomer's way.
>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand in 
>> no time.
>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. It 
>> is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker <radiofore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen and all:
>>> 
>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i phone, 
>>> I am happy to explain my experience.
>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i phone 
>>> functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions depended on 
>>> my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>> 
>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as an 
>>> internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for many but 
>>> for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri as well as 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find making 
>>> calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is offset by 
>>> the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to input menu 
>>> sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps you could 
>>> give us the steps to do this?
>>> 
>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>> Jean
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