Been there, done that, I couldn't remember where the letters wet either smile 
and I never used pocket anything.
On 2013-06-27, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'll confess, I never read the manual, I just played with it.  But I had used 
> Pocket PC for Windows so I knew from friends who had iPhones to double tap.  
> But the On screen keyboard was a bugger to learn, I couldn't remember where 
> the letters were even though everything was laid out like a computer keyboard 
> or an manual typewriter.
> On 27 Jun 2013, at 21:32, Kerri <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It took me about 3 days to get the worst of it over with and this without 
>> *any assistance whatsoever, completely self taught.
>> On 2013-06-27, at 1:12 PM, "Phil Halton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> of course it was a challenge at first.  but honestly, how long was it 
>>> before you were using the iPhone like an old pro? that's all I'm getting 
>>> at, someone said it perfectly, I think it was Gigi, realize that tens of 
>>> thousands of other blind people are using the iPhone everyday, therefore so 
>>> can you. Unless you want to hold to the ridiculous notion that you are 
>>> somehow different or less capable than everyone else. And if you do, 
>>> exactly how do you know that? Answer: you don't!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil, allow me to level with you. To you and many of us, it is *not a big 
>>> deal. But do you recall what it was like when you commenced with the phone? 
>>> For me at least, having never even touched a flat screen it was brutal. Yes 
>>> I got through it but I refuse to sit here and say that it is not a big deal 
>>> for to you what is big is not to the next person.
>>> On 2013-06-27, at 8:22 AM, "Phil Halton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. dialing a number with the 
>>>> onscreen keyboard is one of the easiest things to do. If you set typing 
>>>> mode to "touch", its even easier.
>>>> 
>>>> I've never needed to use the headset, just adjust the volume as needed for 
>>>> the environment.
>>>> 
>>>> When I first went to the iPhone from a Nokia using Talkx, I too was 
>>>> worried about not being able to make a call under pressure or when I 
>>>> really needed to do so. So, My first priority was to master the phone app, 
>>>> then move on to other less important functions. Within a week I was using 
>>>> the iPhone like an old hand, and I'm nothing special believe me. It's 
>>>> mostly the fear of change and a new way of doing things that seems to get 
>>>> in newcomer's way.
>>>> Jump in with both feet and you'll be handling the phone like an old hand 
>>>> in no time.
>>>> The iPhone will unlock unimaginable vistas in accessibility for you if you 
>>>> keep an open mind and have a willingness to try new things.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:17 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: i phone discussion
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Making calls on the iPhone is significantly easier when using a headset. 
>>>> It is then possible to use the on screen keypad to type numbers.
>>>> 
>>>> Lisette
>>>> 
>>>> On 27/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, jean parker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Karen and all:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the possible benefit of anyone thinking about switching to the i 
>>>>> phone, I am happy to explain my experience.
>>>>> I purchased my i phone in mid April but did not change my mobile provider 
>>>>> until early May.  I did this so that I could become used to how the i 
>>>>> phone functioned and using the touch screen before vital transactions 
>>>>> depended on my ability to use the phone.  I am very glad I did this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another thing that has helped is a screen protector with raised dots sold 
>>>>> by Speed Dots.  I know there are some who assert this should not be 
>>>>> necessary however, I believe we should use what makes sense for us as 
>>>>> individuals.  I find that it provides landmarks for orientation on the 
>>>>> screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been told that one must have access to the internet in order for 
>>>>> siri to work.  Perhaps someone on the list can confirm this?  If this is 
>>>>> the case, then utilizing siri for making calls etc would work as long as 
>>>>> an internet connection is available.  This might not be a problem for 
>>>>> many but for me, it is necessary that I know how to manage without siri 
>>>>> as well as with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have gotten pretty good at using my i phone and while I still find 
>>>>> making calls involving many number sequences problematic at times, it is 
>>>>> offset by the other things the i phone does well.  I don't know how to 
>>>>> input menu sequences such as those described by someone earlier.  Perhaps 
>>>>> you could give us the steps to do this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, as a new user I am happy to answer any questions about the 
>>>>> learning curve, at least from my perspective.
>>>>> Jean
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